1st Gen. Ram - All Topics Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.

to lock or not to lock

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-14-2007, 11:26 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
feveree40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
to lock or not to lock

I'm looking at options for rebuilding my dana 70. Now that I have the truck running with another axle, I have time to rebuild this one right. For sure I'm getting a new set of gears (old ones broke), new bearings, seals all around. I'm also rebuilding the brakes with 1 ton set up. The question is do I go all out and put a locker in while I'm at it, or stay with the open carrier? I plan on running it as a daily driver for the next couple years. What do you guys suggest as a locker? detroit, tracloc, power loc, whatever else names are out there?
Old 10-15-2007, 01:00 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
56speedy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Palmer, AK
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well do you ever take it off road with all the stuff you have in your sig. If you do I would put a locker in it. they do all right on the street once you learn them. I like them and I will always run them in my truck.
Old 10-16-2007, 04:58 PM
  #3  
Adminstrator-ess
 
wannadiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Holland, PA
Posts: 22,594
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts
Use the Powr-Lok unless you are a hardcore offroad guy.
Old 10-16-2007, 09:12 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
u.s mma's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Posts: 717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
not to sound stupid, but why the powr-lok over a say powertrax noslip? price? driveability?
Old 10-16-2007, 09:49 PM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
feveree40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
actually I've been doing some research and I think I have answered my own question. The only posi units for the dana 70 that will handle the power of the cummins are the detroit and the powr-lok. There are others out there but they say "not reccomended for high horse power or large tires." The detroit locks when power is applied, and releases when it coasts. The powr-lok uses clutches to help even out wheel speed when one wheel slips. Therefore the detroit gives a rougher on road ride but a true lock when you need it. I think I'll go with the powr-lok because I will be doing a lot of road driving, but I'm tired of getting my lifted truck stuck. plus its $100 cheaper. thanks for the responses.
Old 10-16-2007, 11:58 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
Diesel Junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Silycon Valley
Posts: 332
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
I have driven a detroit on the street in my daily drivers for the last 12 years or so. my offroad truck and the 92 cummins.

In my 92 I especially like the detroit. With a heavy motor, a torqy motor, a manual trans, and a light back end, the detroit will give you a hell of a lot more straightline traction in the rain and ice. You need to know what you are doing when cornering on the ice with a detroit, but its easy to get used to... i think it is better on the street than an open diff, but thats just me.

Obviously there is a huge benefit on the dirt.

I would recommend a disk brake conversion for the back... I havent done it on my 92 yet, but I do have one on my dana 60 on the offroad truck... the added stopping power is unbelievable. TSM makes conversion kits... they use rotors and calipers from GM 3/4Ton front bakes.
Old 10-17-2007, 06:36 PM
  #7  
Adminstrator-ess
 
wannadiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Holland, PA
Posts: 22,594
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts
Originally Posted by u.s mma
not to sound stupid, but why the powr-lok over a say powertrax noslip? price? driveability?
Strength and driveability. The Powr-lok is very strong, it is a 4 spider unit. Also, due to its design, the more torque imbalance there is between the two wheels, the tighter it locks.
Old 10-17-2007, 09:40 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
feveree40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
is this a powr-lok? to lock or not to lock-powr-lok.jpg
Old 10-17-2007, 10:28 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Diesel Junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Silycon Valley
Posts: 332
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
I am not sure but it looks like a power lock as I remember, but its been many years since i saw one.

I believe that the stock limited slip diff is a power lock.

I still have my stock limited slip laying around somewhere... needs a rebuild though.... before I took it out it was acting like a completely open diff though.

The clutches will wear out eventually in all limited slips.

You also have to make sure you use the right gear oil or an additive, or else the clutches will quit right away. I believe GL5 grade gear oil has the right additive.

True Lockers don't really wear out.

I have seen a detroit locker get destroyed once before, but only at toyota minitruck size,,,, never a dana 70.
Old 10-18-2007, 07:09 PM
  #10  
Adminstrator-ess
 
wannadiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Holland, PA
Posts: 22,594
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts
Originally Posted by feveree40
is this a powr-lok?
Yessir. If it's not spinning both tires, get a new set of clutches for it. Takes a couple hours in the driveway to swap 'em, not a big deal.
Old 10-18-2007, 07:59 PM
  #11  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
feveree40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thanks, I was planning on replacing the clutches anyway just to be sure.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JKM
HELP!
1
09-23-2007 11:38 AM
xp8103
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
4
06-02-2006 07:00 AM
mr T
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
21
06-01-2005 08:48 AM
Nuttymopar
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
11
09-02-2004 07:39 AM
damon_achey
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
10
06-07-2004 03:33 PM



Quick Reply: to lock or not to lock



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:33 PM.