Who decided that this is a horrible life decision?

For all you know, this may be the single best thing that Faith could have ever done with her life.

I know when I lay my head on my pillow at night, I am at peace with myself.

Id be willing to bet that Faith now feels the same way.

 

Someone has to make decisions, there are leaders and there are followers then there are guiders. So far 99% of the responders are follower yes men.

Same reason its law that you wear your seatbelt.....? Shouldn't I be able to choose not to wear one? The people of the USA obviously don't think so or it wouldn't be law...right?

Life is more difficult than being at PEACE.... This is not a peaceful world, wake up!

Again, Wanna don't take this the wrong way... Im being as compassionate as I can on this ordeal. I don't know you Adam from EVE but what your doing is wrong in Gods eyes if that is what you believe in. He created you and your now distorting what he has created. Just some things to think about. Not trying to be religious on the ordeal but I see your homepage as a church group.

It is better to slowly guide you in the correct direction in life since nobody wants to help you grab back ahold of the wheel in this situation. Its not a easy road to recover but I personally believe you will be happier with yourself as you are than changing things up a bit

These are just my opinions Wanna.... and no need to respond, just hoping you read them thats all!

Either way, Good luck on your new Journey though life one direction or another!

 

That is an assumption, and a wrong one at that. You know nothing of who I am, where Ive been, and what Ive accomplished in my short time on Earth.

Your logic is flawed. Laws such as the seat belt law exist for SAFETY reasons. Try again.

I could care less about what state of peace or lack there of the world is in. I care about my world. My friends, my family. And that little part of my life, I am at peace with.

I applaud your efforts, but you cant save the world, no matter how hard you want to try. Live and let live buddy.

 

Hi Justin-
You remind me of a man I met today, he wouldn't tell me his name so I'll call him Joe. Today was Pride fest at Centre Park in Reading, PA and I was there with other members of my church, our choir (I'm in it) was singing and I volunteered to staff our booth for a while. It was a sunny day here today, 93 and very humid as it often is, so I had brought my big rolling cooler filled with bottled water. Joe was outside with a big sign and an old-fashioned megaphone and he was walking around the park (it's not very big) and saying many of the same things that have been said in this thread by you and others. Our booth was near the edge of the park and when I saw Joe he was by our part of the temporary fence (you have to pay a nominal charge to get in, the protesters won't pay for entry). I saw him out there, his shirt soaked, sweat pouring off his head and I reached in the cooler for a water bottle and headed for the fence. Silent Witness (a group that shields queer folks from protesters by silently holding rainbow umbrellas in front of them) stepped aside as I held out the bottle of water. "Here, you must be thirsty." Joe stopped yelling and looked at me like I had three heads. "I'm not thirsty" he said. I said "It's really hot and you're losing a lot of water. Please take the water." Joe said "I won't take anything from you, I don't trust you." "Look, the bottle is sealed. Please take it. I love you." Joe began saying many unpleasant things to me. I held out the water and said "I love you, take the water." "You're gender confused!" he yelled. "No, I'm a woman. I love you, take the water." "You're an abomination!" "I love you. You must be thirsty, take the water." Joe stopped yelling and walked across the street.

He was back about an hour later. Same drill. I talked, he yelled accusations and judgment. He shut up and crossed the street.

Third time. Silent Witness grinned as I headed for the fence with another bottle. Joe was determined this time. He hollered abuse. "I love you, here's some water." Condemnation. "I love you, please take the water. It's hot out here and I'm worried about you." Judgment. "I love you. Take the water." Joe walked across the street. He didn't come back again.

Justin, I love you. Take the water.

 

Acctually real quick on the seat belt thing why is it they can tell me, the owner of my truck that I bought and paid for, that I must wear my seat belt or face a ticket? I am the owner of it. I understand making children buckle up and maybe passengers. But its my truck my seatbelts I should be able to decide I want to wear it or not. Its just another step in controlling us I think. Its my freedom to chose safety or the risk of dying in my awesome 92 W250 just saying lol. And as a fellow christian I agree with you catdiesel. Jesus gave us one job and that's to spread the gospel through speaking it and by our actions and just how we live. That's our major influence on people is by being a living example of how we should live. We are suppose to help our fellow brothers and sisters out if they do wrong but never to judge. Not saying you are catdiesel but others are accusing and ridiculing and judging when that is not our job. We are to love wanadiesel no matter wat we can show him the error of his ways but always doing so through love never through judgement. Jydgement brings people down judgment doesn't solve anything that is why the law had to be fulfilled by christ because it could only point out sin never fix it and never make you forgiven. I'm just putting out wat I think on all this. And wanadiesel its a tough road your going down if you ever need help or just need someone to talk to we are all here for you. Always to encourage you never tear you down and hurt you. That's wat the bible tells us to do always encourage never tear anyone down. Well goodluck buddy we always want your knowledge on these trucks in this forum

 

All the naysayers have yet too have a battle inside their mind.( Not a decision of whether or not they like something or believe in GOD ), but a very real decision of life and death.

Faith, you have made a very hard decision in what you did. You have chosen to do what you want. Family, friends......they have to accept the fact. I don't think they would like the other option.

I wish you well in the new life, and your future.

Keith

 

Faith?

I am very confused at where proclaiming to be a follower of God and being a homosexual can work together? The "bible" speaks harsh upon homosexuality. I see the crutch here as gender transition but thats only a mask to the real problem.

Where many are completely wrong in accusing several of us as being judgmental when in fact we are only trying to help him see the truth. Why does everyone pussyfoot around these subjects. Everyone is so scared to death of it they only want to agree with and move along.

Dave, Sir... Its not to late.

This is highly disturbing.....

http://www.visionofhopemcc.org/missi...statement.html

Your influence from these kind of people is not helping one bit. Looks as if Im pretty well singled out on this matter for the most part.


Regards. Wish you well.

 

http://www.visionofhopemcc.org/the_b...sexuality.html

I love you, take the water.

 

Homosexual acts are frowned upon in the bible.?.........then why is it that Catholic Priests are touching kids?, and the Pope is covering it up? That my friend is a truth. Pussyfoot around that.

 

I don't recall seeing that Faith proclaimed she was a homosexual.

 

LOL "Faith" I would take the water from you in a heart beat if I was thirsty. MAtter fact I would take it regardless of my thirst for reserve. But doesn't stop me from trying to guide you in the right direction away from a brain washed organization.

Flatline,

please educate yourself before you ramble on again. Your post about what a Catholic priest has done wrong is 110% irrelevant to this subject that was at hand.

Thats like saying because a 6.0L blows head gaskets in stock form ALL diesels will blow head gaskets.... That my friend is the truth.... LOL Right?
So because I break the speed limit doing 45 over makes it OK for everyone to do the same? Just because a false ordained minister or priest touches a kid doesn't mean its right does it? Think a little harder next time on an analogy.

Do some research pal on transgender.

 

Wanna,
This is a tough one to bring up to a forum of the DTR. I have always asked for help on this site and the majority of things that I have asked for, you always put in your 2 cents, no matter how stupid the queston was that I asked. I appreciate that and still do, and I hope it continues, the advice that is.

It has to be tough, at least I think it would be, being in your situation. I have no idea what you are going through/going to go through. With that said, I have to say myself, that I would agree with Catdiesel on this subject personally. Although it is not my place to judge anyone, most of us do, because we are all human. I also dont think that Catdiesel is trying to judge you, I think he is truley trying to help you in the ways that he knows how. He actually IMO trying to show you that he cares for you, as a person, as many of us do.

I am not going to really speak my true stance on this, as it would do no good to either you or this thread.

I do however, wish you the best in the long road you have gone down, and will continue to go down the rest of your life.

The one thing that I do disagree with is this being posted here, as a thread, in this forum. It is not the duty (IMO) of the DTR to do this, and I believe if it was me or any other truely non educated person starting this thread, it would have been deleted and the person probably banned.

I do understand why the top admins let this go on, as it is out of respect toward you and the great contribution you have given to the many members here on this site.


I would also hope that if anything like this were to happen in the future, I think it could have been handled different. Maybe PM's to your closest friends would be a start. But to totally put this out into the forums like this is, IMO was the wrong way to do this. Unfortunately, other than the PM suggestion, I dont know of a better way it could have been handled.

I also beleive that even after all these post counts for this thread....there are probably many more that wont get involved for fear of being banned or kicked off the site for voicing their stance on this personal subject.

Like the one poster said, and I agree with, go figure its a woman that knows more that us guys here......sometimes we just cant win...lol

Regards GRD

 

You brought the "bible" into this . Catholic Priests do touch kids. ( They are MALE, alter boys are MALE ).......ain't nothing homo about that is there? Homosexual is bad...remember. False Priests.....what a stretch.

Where did head gaskets come into this?? or speeding??

Transgender is a little different than transsexual.

 

Faith has never said if she likes men or women. How the hell is she "gay".?

 

I don't think there is anything better you could have said to "Joe".

Maybe I'm wrong, but don't they require a lot of counseling before they will schedule surgery?

Not long ago I would have been critical of your decision, but I met Beth while we were both having girl troubles and helped each other through some rough times. Getting to know her really changed my view on a lot of things.

I think you (the administrators) handled this the right way. If you hadn't put this out here now, there is the chance that someone would have announced it in a not-so-polite manner. If you lose membership over it, I think you'll be better off for it. I'm a member on a couple old tractor forums where that was the case.

If anyone wants to give me crap over this, have at it. There's not much you can call me that I haven't been called before.