Maybe you need to review that thread a little. They started the attack, she didn't. They brought it to the level of low ball humor, she didn't. She did however defend herself and her position. If you were being attacked, wouldn't you feel justified defending yourself, even to the point of registering on another forum to do so.

 

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dieselJon:

I find this part of your post pretty interesting:

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"Wana, live your words. The do unto others as would have them do to you. I find it despicable that as an Administrator, you would seek out another forum that this was discussed, quite rudely I will agree, create a username, and attack them in a way that I have NEVER seen you do before."
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Are you talking about the posts that wannadiesel made on CompD??? Or another diesel forum?? If you are referring to wannadiesels posts on CompD I would say that the pictures on CompD posted there by one of their members of the duct tape and guillotine were way over the top and totally uneccessary Sir! Just remeber this;.....THEY STARTED THE ATTACKS, NOT WANNADIESEL!!

I fail to see why you have a problem with wannadiesel getting on there to defend herself against some of the very people he once helped with their 1st Gen trucks!! Pretty darn amazing.......

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Wanna, What does what have I done for my neighbor today have anything to do with the fact you were born a man. If you believe in God you also believe that you should not alter your body. This will never make sense to you because there are so many versions of being a "Christian".... Your version is obviously very liberal compared to alot of other mainstream christian ideas.

Gender is between your ears and between your legs.... The portion between your ears has given the portion between your legs the ability to produce sperm and not an egg.

To say God is OK with you making these changes is a slap in the face to the entire Christian community that have any belief in the Bible. Please evaluate your decisions before you make them permanent.

I think I speak on behalf of alot of lurkers that I would rather help you understand why your a male then ever accept why you THINK you need to be a female.

Im highly disappointed in all of your so called friends for letting you get in this shape (internally in your mind).

The easy road is acceptance .

The hard road is HELPING.




So, I ask you to ask all of your friends what they have done for you besides promote a morally wrong life long decision.

Just for the record Wanna, Im not hating on you, just asking to ask yourself some serious questions. Life is not so complicated you have to change your sex. We live, breathe, then die. All in that order LOL... Oh and drive diesels....

 

Jon as I CLEARLY stated earlier on in the thread, I made the decision to allow this discussion here, good bad or indifferent, lay the blame at MY feet. As one of the owners of this Forum, I have the RIGHT to allow topics of my choice.

I suggest if this subject upsets you to quit looking at it.... A simple and painful method for you to stop agonizing over it I will stop it after everyone has had their opportunity to let their feelings known in a respectful and responsible manner and not before.

 

Since I am both a Friend to Faith and the one responsible for allowing her to use this space to let her friends know what is happening, I will respond to your comment.

No one has promoted or counseled faith from this group to make ANY decision, this is Faiths decision and hers alone. She made her decision I understand after many conversations with the leaders and congregation of her church and untold hours of prayer on the subject.

Trying to place the blame on me or any other friend that chooses to support Her life decisions is a mistake. People control their own lives and I for one do NOT try to shove my own belief system on them. Besides, Faith is going to do what Faith wants to do no matter what You or I say anyway

It easy for you to take a high moral stance and be judgmental because you don't have to live the life that Faith has been dealt. I am sure you know the old saying, "walk a mile in another persons shoes before you pass judgment on them"? At the end of the day you get to go back to your life and forget all about this stuff, whereas Faith has to live with it day in and day out, year after year.

We all have our crosses to bear in life, some are heavier than others...but in the end we have to make the best life we can out of what is dealt to us, regardless of what others may or may not think.

I refuse to judge Faith for her beliefs, or you for yours....instead I will steadfastly continue to support your right to have those beliefs as I have in the past, including spilling my own blood in the process. As an American I hold the Freedom of Religion as sacred, as a former Combat Soldier I feel protecting that Freedom is still worth dying for.

So if you feel YOUR brand of Religion is better than the brand of Religion Faith has, I respectfully submit that you should pour some cool water over your head and try to think a little clearer You see I believe you are BOTH right and neither of you have the right to attempt to force your beliefs on the other.

Faith clearly is NOT trying to force you into accepting ANYTHING you don't want to, and neither am I

 

That should say it all. I have been sitting here and watching people judge her. If you are going to quote the bible, try the parts about tolerance and acceptance. Sheeeeeeeeeesh try being happy for her and then, if it is necessary in your religion, beg forgiveness...Mark

 

Im not trying to shove anything down his throat and also realize he is not shoving anything down my throat.... regardless of the religion or hard live "Wanna" has endured , would it not be more fitting to try and help "Wanna" through his rough time in life instead of just agreeing with his rational thoughts of a complete life and physical change?

I know, thats harder than just accepting "him for her".... Someone should really reach out and help him instead of just agreeing with him... this is a cry for help and looks to me like everyone is so wrapped up and blinded from reality anymore due to our ever changing culture that nobody can SEE the cry for help....... Everyone this day and age is SO STINKING SCARED to upset someone else when they are wrong. The cool thing to do now is to just AGREE and LET IT GO. I say no to that. And I know there are many more who agree with this but are SCARED to say anything for fears of higher up "JUDGEMENT"....

Im not here to pass judgment on what type of religion he is practicing but in GENERAL this sort of act is condoned by most all religions.... Very hypocritical to act as a servant of God yet use secular technology to alter that.

"Wanna", I truly don't believe you will find happiness in altering your physical body to meet your desires....

This overwhelming internet support is not going to help you in the physical real life.....

Please don't take these comments the wrong way, Im just on the other side of the fence on this issue instead of being a innocent bystander and just nodding my head yes Im trying to confront the issue with you in a reasonable manner. In a case like this HELP is not going to come off as easy...

 

I only made a smart comment. Nowhere on this site or any other have I stated my opinion about Wanna. You are incorrect though, I don't know why this thread is here, even though it's been explained several times.

 

That is none of my business......Faith did not consult with me on ANY of this, instead she chose to get counsel from her Pastor and others in her Church. I found out the way you did, just a few weeks earlier is all. She made her decision for what ever reasons she did and as her friend I will support her in any manner I possibly can.

I would not be a good one to counsel her anyway as I know so little about the subject or what she is going through. I spent a few weeks going over all this in my own mind knowing full well that I will take the heat over this.....My decision was a simple one in the end because all I really had to ask myself was whether I considered Faith to be my friend or not....... Obviously I knew the answer to that question so I had to be sure Faith knew that I was her friend as well by being there for her, no matter what the cost.

 

Let me help by restating it in simple terms

Faith has been involved in Diesel Motor Sports in a HUGE way over the years, helping thousands and making friends all over the world. Being the honest individual she is, she wanted to TELL her friends here so they could hear it from her and NOT feel as though she is hiding anything from anybody. She cares about these people and THIS avenue gives her the chance to reach as many as possible at one time.

The reason it is allowed here is because I am half owner in this Forum and it is MY job to run the day to day issues here. I said it could go here, it was My decision to make and I accept all responsibility for my action, right or wrong.

 

Well, it is what it is..... I have my thoughts you have your thoughts.... You have chosen to go with the grain and I have chosen to go against the grain.

Sometimes you have to draw the line in life of what is to be expected for acceptance.

All to many times this day and age does everyone want to just take the easy street and go with the flow. Its ruining this country on a daily basis.

 

No Sir, I chose my friends happiness over my own feelings... I figure my beliefs are mine and I have no right to force them on my friend

I agree but you have to choose your battles wisely. In this case you or I have NO say so in the situation even if we wanted to

I agree and do so on a daily basis, however my Friends Gender has no bearing on you, me or the Country..... In fact for all I know you could be sitting there at your computer wearing a Cowboy hat and a pink too too as well Doesn't matter to me either way because you are still the same person inside and here on the Internet you have NO idea who you are really talking to

 

I think its a joke that people are wasting their time trying to make faith feel bad, or get their irrelevant point across.

What is your problem?
Your probably the same individual that stops next to a car accident to look, but doesn't get out of the car to see if anybody is ok... Mean while your causing a traffic jam, so that people who want to help cannot reach them(EMS).

All for what?
I'm sure your patting your self on the back because your such a good arguer with a "i showed them" kind of additude.
For those of you who say this is a diesel/truck website, go outside and work on your rig, i'm sure there is something constructive you can do. Rather than tie your self up in this high-school-like drama you are trying to create.

 

I tell you what, I decided to start a club...

Its a club for all of those who dont support Faith, no longer want to be a part of this Discussion, or DTR. Its also welcoming those those who dont understand why it was allowed for this to take place in the 1st gen section.

Those who want to join click Here

 

Thanks for sharing the details of you are wearing today with us Lary