hey guys

i have one truck that has a nv4500 in it now but i got the kit from a buddy , were is the best place to get the the kit to put the np205 case on the nv4500

thanks for the help

 

There is no kit to put a np205 to a nv4500 because it is inerchangeable. I just bought a brand new nv4500 to put into my 92 W350. Now I need an adaptor kit to put the nv4500 into my truck. I dont have a second gen donor truck so I will need to find a kit to bolt the tranny up using my factory motor plate. I have only found one option. Advance Adapters makes a kit to put it in. The kit comes with thier custom bell that adapts the nv4500 to our motor plate. Then I can still use the factory motor plate and slave assembly. It also comes with a transfer shifter assembly to mount our shifter in the correct location! Has anyone out there done this swap with a AA kit? If so what obsticales did you comes accross? Where you able to use our factory clutch with no problems? And did the kit come together perfectly? Thanks

 

I was lucky enough to buy my truck with this already done to it,

The factory sach's clutch will work, that whats in mine currently, and everything else look like its a factory install

 

Well, there is a transmission adapter housing between the np205 and the nv4500 or the G360 for that matter. At the bottom of which, the crossmember is bolted, and to the side of which, the tcase shift gate and lever are bolted. Next, and closer to the np205 is the transfer case adapter. When I got a np205 from a junk yard, I got it with the tcase adapter but not the transmission housing adapter. I had to ask for it specifically.
So, if your truck was originally a 5-speed and a nv4500 was swapped later on, you should have all the parts from the back of te nv to the input shaft on the np.

 

Years ago I worked and helped to run an auto wrecking yard. We used a large 4 inch thick book called the "Hollander Interchange Guide" which listed what vehicle components would fit various other vehicle models. One section was for manual transmissions and another was for transfer cases. Whenever we sold a transfer case it was a complete bolt in unit from the front case attaching point at the rear of the transmission to either the output splines or the u-joint provision in the rear. If it had a connecting coupler the coupler was included with the transfer case. There was no such thing as a transfer case adapter listed in those books. I first noticed this new term "transfer case adapter" which seems to have been coined by the Epay connivers after they found out they could get more money by selling this removable part by itself. This was also picked up by a lot of the internet forums where the sellers followed suite. To me any credible wrecking yard will sell only a complete bolt in unit replacement transfer case as listed in the Hollander guide. Maybe things have changed and Hollander lists that as an individual part now or is the greed spreading?

 

To me the part your referring to ( I believe) is the part that mounts to the crossmember. In my opinion this piece has always been sold with the trans! But you are correct, I had never seen an auto sale with the shaft exposed until I saw them online for sale like that! The splined coupler that connects the transfer case to the splines on the back of the tranny should go with the transfer case, IMO!

Pulltilbroke, thanks for the pic! That is an AA bellhousing. Can you please take a pic of the other side of the transfer case shifter? When I order mine I have a choice of a gated or non gated shifter from AA. I dont know what I have? Apperantly 92-94 used both or something because they send one version unless otherwise requisted! I just am wanting to know what version shifter you have? Thanks, Robert

 

I Have One Of Those Bellhousing Do Not Need It Will Sell

 

I thought with a little grinding you could use the first gen slave on a 2nd gen bellhousing. No?

I also heard the 2nd gen fork makes pushing in the clutch way easier.

 

This is the only pic I got of the 4x4 shifter linkage, I'll try to get a better one tomorow

 

You're talking about the tailshaft housing for the transmission, which is almost always sold w/ the trans. A getrag tailshaft has provisions cast into its side to mount the transfer case shifter, the NV4500 tailshaft does not. Advance adapters makes a bracket to mount the shifter to. On the front of the np205 there is the adapter that bolts to the main case(figure 8 like pattern) and has a 6 bolt round pattern on the other end that bolts to the tailshaft of the trans.

 

If you have to push your transfer case shifter over to the right to shift into neutral and 4L, you probably have a gated shifter. The pattern on the **** should jog to the right in front of 2H also, a non gated shifter should have the pattern listed in a straight line front to back. You can see the gates in the shifter itself if you look at it, kind of like an open gate Ferrari shifter. My 91 and 91.5 have non gated shifters, my 92 and 93 are gated. With how old all of these trucks are now though, probably best not to assume anything and check it out to be sure.

 

Thanks for the info! I know I have to push it towards the passengerside floor board to get into nuetral and 4hi. So that would make it a gated shifter.

 

Bookshelf, thanks for pointing out the difference between the tailshaft housing as found for nv4500 and G360. Wasn't aware of that. Correct me if I'm wrong; the nv4500 will still bolt to the G360 adapter housing and in that case you do not need the AA bracket?

 

The tail housing off the NV4500 transmission does not bolt onto a G360 transmission. As stated the transfer case shifter bolts to the G360 transmission tailhousing. When you install an NV4500 you loose this mounting provision. Advance Adapters sells a bracket that bolts to the transmission to transfer case flange. Any complete as removed 29 spline NP205 from behind a first gen Dodge Cummins with the G360 will bolt directly to the Dodge diesel 29 spline version of the NV4500. The length of the transmissions is almost identical. I did my conversion using AA parts which included a piece of 2" square tubing for the trans mount, the transfer case shifter bracket, and the conversion bellhousing. Everything bolted together without any problems. I could have saved about $500 if I had this information before I started.

 

a 4x4 getrag has a 31 spline output and the t-case has a 31 spline input,
an auto truck has a 29 spline input t-case.