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JetA - two-stroke oil ratio?

Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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JetA - two-stroke oil ratio?

I know I posed this a few years ago, but I am finally ready to take my sons boss up on the JetA fuel he want's to get rid of. $3.50 a gallon diesel is killing me, but I don't want to trash my pump trying to save a few bucks.
Anyone know what kind of two stroke oil ration I need to keep the pump alive?
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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I'd run 2 quarts per tank.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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I would think you better do some serious research on that . I think I seen a tread on here that exslained the effects of 2 stroke oil . I have heard of people useing it but you are going to be totally relying on it to bring the lube value of that fuel to what it needs to be . An there are other additives in diesel as well . Not saying you can,t just be sure . Maybe one of the Bio sites could help
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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I'm not married to two-stroke oil, it's just cheap and slippery. I'd use B-100 if I could get it for a decent price.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Throw in a gallon of cheap wal-mart $1.14qt sae30 oil. Thats what I did with JP5 but JetA is the driest of the bunch.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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What is JetA and JP5??? Fuel obviosuly but what exactly is it and whats the pros and cons never heard of it.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgeFreak
What is JetA and JP5??? Fuel obviosuly but what exactly is it and whats the pros and cons never heard of it.
It's jet turbine fuel. Jet A is a very clean, heavy kerosine that burns with no soot, but has verly low lubricity.

My son works for a helicopter company (they are ling time clients and friends for me) and they are required to drain the tanks before they put the helicopters in the hanger to work on them. They have a 500 gal storage tank that costs them a fortune to have pumped out, so they really want me to take it to burn in the diesel. I just have to make sure it is clear, because if it's cloudy that means there is water suspended in the fuel. Unlikely here in New Mexico, where the humidity right now is single digit!
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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I would maybe mix this dry fuel 50/50 with plain old diesel and dump in a couple gallons of used oil per tank.

If you can get a steady supply for free, you should possibly lay in a stock of oil-drums to store it in, or maybe a couple old home oil-furnace tanks.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BearKiller
I would maybe mix this dry fuel 50/50 with plain old diesel and dump in a couple gallons of used oil per tank.

If you can get a steady supply for free, you should possibly lay in a stock of oil-drums to store it in, or maybe a couple old home oil-furnace tanks.
I have a 350 gal tank I plan to use.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 05:21 AM
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had a source like that several years ago before i owned a diesel. used it in my oil furnace with no problems. wish i had it now.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 05:53 AM
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Jet A and JP5 has a tendency to absorb moisture from the air so make sure you have a bottom drain on your storage tank and the pump suction does not go to the bottom. You need to drain the separated water each time you plan on using the fuel.

I would tend to lean in the direction of 1/2 tank regular diesel and top up with the Jet A and a couple of quarts of 2 stroke. Keep an eye on your filter.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Forgot to mention, when i ran the JP5 with a gallon of oil my old 89' 3 speed auto got 23mpg. It ran pretty good. Wish I could get ahold of the stuff now.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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You could home brew some Bio for a good lubricant, (again being careful to assure water separation) if not BD, I would use the 2 stroke at ~ 40:1 or econo motor oil at 30:1 and probably use some Stanadyne for good measure.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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When I ran an into-plane fueling operation we ran all our diesel GSE on Jet-A with no problems associated with fuel. We ran 8V92's, DT466's C180's C160's and even an old Hercules pancake diesel on it. One of our Cummins powered generators needed an overhaul and since it only had an hour meter the Cummins Techs estimated it had the equivilant of 800,000 miles on it. They were sometimes hard to start but never failed us. The freeze point of Jet-A is -40 degrees and with our VEs I would suggest a good lubricity additive witha cetane booster as it will have some of the same properties as winter mix.

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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I get solvent,diesel,jet fuel, etc,from company that service's tractor trailers and they empty them before they work on them in there shop ,mixed together and i mix 2 stroke and centane booster,in white bottle forgot name,been using this for 8 years 1 million 30000 kms on jetta diesel and 40000 miles on dodge most of companies are happy when you pick it up as it is treated as haziest goods and thy have to pay for disposal.
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