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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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HELP! Where can I get ball joints for 4500# Axle

I just bought a 92 W250 from the original owner with 89K mile on it. It pulls to the right pretty hard so I figured I would get a list of parts together to rebuild the front end. The truck has the optional 4500# front axle. I cannot find any place to buy these. I just got off the phone with the local Dodge dealership and they said I can't get ball joints for that axle anymore. I hope this is wrong. If anyone has experience with this please share.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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King Pin or ball joint

Sorry for my lack of knowledge about the difference in a W250 and D250. From what I just read my W250 does not have ball joints like my D250 instead it has king pins. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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I just bought a 92 W250 from the original owner with 89K mile on it. It pulls to the right pretty hard so I figured I would get a list of parts together to rebuild the front end. The truck has the optional 4500# front axle. I cannot find any place to buy these. I just got off the phone with the local Dodge dealership and they said I can't get ball joints for that axle anymore. I hope this is wrong. If anyone has experience with this please share.
Try these guys. the 4500 lb d60 has ball joints. These guys have kits with everything you need...Mark
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Old May 23, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by W250TATE
Sorry for my lack of knowledge about the difference in a W250 and D250. From what I just read my W250 does not have ball joints like my D250 instead it has king pins. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
You probably have a 6000 lb d60...Mark
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Old May 23, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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the dana 60 in any w250 or w350 that came factory with the cummins does NOT have ball joints. The lower joint is a tapered needle bearing and the upper joint is a hardened pin with a nylon bushing. Usually just they nylon bushing needs replaced, usually....
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Old May 23, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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the dana 60 in any w250 or w350 that came factory with the cummins does NOT have ball joints. The lower joint is a tapered needle bearing and the upper joint is a hardened pin with a nylon bushing. Usually just they nylon bushing needs replaced, usually....
That is good to know. I am currently doing my king pins and I got the kit from Quad 4x4. It comes with everything, including locktight, anti-seize compound and silicone. I also am replacing the upper pin. I thought that it looked good, but after I got it out and looked at it real close, I found that it was worn in a kind of "star" pattern. I believe that the lines in the plastic bushing caused them. Mark
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Old May 23, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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What are you using to remove the upper pin? Apparently you need a giant allen wrench?
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Old May 23, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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I bought the upper pin kit from quad 4x4 and it came with the 7/8" allen wrench and a 3/4 drive socket for it. I used a 3/4" breaker bar, heat, pb blaster, repeat and an 8' long cheater bar:


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It was amazing when it finally gave, I was able to easily take it out with my hand...Mark
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Old May 23, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Ha! Sounds like good times. ;-)
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Ha! Sounds like good times. ;-)
Yeah. and I am racing the triple digits here in sand land. The wrench fits so well that it easily supports all that leverage and does not come out of the pin. It fits into it at least an inch. In this process, I broke a 1/2" breaker bar and the pin laughed at my 2000 ft pound impact wrench. Any engineers that can figure the torque generated by 8' of leverage and a 160 pound man leaning on it?..Mark
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Ha. Well, I've got 15 lbs on you, so maybe that'll help, eh?

I was thinking I was going to purchase the individual side kits from 4wd factory, instead of quad4x4...gives me food for thought.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Ha. Well, I've got 15 lbs on you, so maybe that'll help, eh?

I was thinking I was going to purchase the individual side kits from 4wd factory, instead of quad4x4...gives me food for thought.
Between the upper pin kit and the rebuild kit, it comes with everything you need, except the inner wheel bearing seal if you are going to pack your bearings while your in there...Mark
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That is good to know. I am currently doing my king pins and I got the kit from Quad 4x4. It comes with everything, including locktight, anti-seize compound and silicone. I also am replacing the upper pin. I thought that it looked good, but after I got it out and looked at it real close, I found that it was worn in a kind of "star" pattern. I believe that the lines in the plastic bushing caused them. Mark
Mark,

Is the place you're speaking of in Montana ?

http://quad4x4.com/#Dodge


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Thanks . Looking forwards to doing mine as well....

T.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Mark,

Is the place you're speaking of in Montana ?

http://quad4x4.com/#Dodge


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Thanks . Looking forwards to doing mine as well....

T.
That is the place. I also paid 12 bucks for a dvd on how to do it...Well worth it...Mark
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Any engineers that can figure the torque generated by 8' of leverage and a 160 pound man leaning on it?..Mark
If I remember right should be right at 1280 ft-lbs. Assuming all your weight is directly on the very end of the 8' bar.
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