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Old 10-11-2004, 07:34 PM
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Head porting and ceramic coating

Im looking for a volunteer who has a good working knowledge and experience that is interested in sending us a head, manifold and turbine housing for porting and coating.

I will do this free of charge with the condition the he has recent dyno sheet and is willing to dyno the truck afterwards.

Weve done quite a bit with dodge turbo cars with good results, and are branching into the diesel market.

I can only do one, so if you have a good deal of experience and the ability to dyno before and after results let me know.

If your not the one who gets the complimentary work, we can still get you a quote.

thanks,

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Did you get a volunteer yet?
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About how much will it cost to do this? id like to get it done when i repaint my truck. i just dont know when that will be.
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I don't see any benefits of coating a turbine housing (from a turbo builders standpoint). All I see is increased heat being retained inside the housing, resulting in premature turbo failure or damage.

Is there a good reason for coating a housing?

I'm not trying to bash the subject. I know alot of people who have their housings coated, among other parts. But I'm just wondering if I'm right, or if there's a good reason for doing it other than looks...?
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Heat is the energy that drives the turbo. The more heat you can retain in the manifold and turbine housing the more efficient the engine becomes.
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Dave is correct. Turbo wrap that rascal and it will give you a couple more psi of manifold pressure.
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I did get a volunteer and should see his parts first of next month.

The head, manifold and turbine housing porting is 700.00 including the coatings. We coat the combustion chamber and exhaust ports, as well as a inner and outter coating on the manifold and a outer coating on the turbine housing.

Wannadiesel is exactly correct, heat is energy. Ill find a real informative article that goes into detail about the flow of exhaust vs the expansion/contraction of the gasses and how it effect things. On my turbo car swapped from a ported stock uncoated manifold which ran consistent 12.10s to a coated manifold, turbine housing and downpipe and ran consistent 11.70s, now other factors can account for part of the gain, but there was certainly an improvement.

I also dropped 200+ degrees of surface temp on the exhaust manifold, so it does work. The wrap does work, but traps moisture.
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Man I wish I read this sooner. I Just had everthing apart and it should be finished tomorrow. I going to need all I can get to make it to 500hp on number 2 and 600hp on some drugs.

The B.U.S.T. project is still a GO. It didnt survive round one. We will have to see if it survives round 2. It has some better parts now and it can hold the boost.

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So now it's Project B.U.S.T.A., right? And if it's a success you can call phase 3 Project B.U.S.T.Y.A. Still working on a name for phase 4, by then you'll have titanium connecting rods, a billet crank, and the head will be welded on.
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I hope it holds for a while. I would like to get it painted. I'll never get it painted if I keep puting money in the motor. Oh well who cares I may have a junk yard dog, but its fast. Plus paint doesnt make it go faster.

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If you paint it, you'll be losing the pucker factor and people will be parking closer to you than you may like.
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LOL Yeah your right. The problem is its starting to rust living along the coast. I need to do something pretty soon.

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Originally posted by mopar2ya
I did get a volunteer and should see his parts first of next month.

The head, manifold and turbine housing porting is 700.00 including the coatings. We coat the combustion chamber and exhaust ports, as well as a inner and outter coating on the manifold and a outer coating on the turbine housing.
Any update on your tests yet?
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12.10s to a coated manifold, turbine housing and downpipe and ran consistent 11.70s, now other factors can account for part of the gain, but there was certainly an improvement.
So, I wonder what the other factors are.
4/10s of a second is a lot I would be interested in getting that much more HP from a little bit of coating. I know porting does a lot but coating Im not sure about.

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