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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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getrag drain plug mod??

Has anyone come up with a fill plug that has a threaded nipple on it that can be used to fill the trans. I was thinking of pulling the drain plug, draining the oil, installing a fill plug with a permenant pipe on it where you could push a plastic tube over it to attach to a oil gun. After the trans was full screw on a cap.

The normal way I fill the trans is through the shifter. I was wondering if there was a fitting that could be used to refill the getrag through the fill plug without removing the plug? This way you would avoid the mess of trying to put the extra quart in I hope you get what I am trying to say. If you just try to fill through the drain or fill hole it gets a little messy. Is there a fitting available that will do this?

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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This is how i did it.

I filled the getrag with 5 Q, with a bottle pump,thru the top bolt of the pto cover.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...9&ppuser=40988

Then i took a coat hanger, cut and bent it to fit down inside to check the fluid.
marked the new dipstick with red paint(my truck touch up paint) at the 5Q full mark and then attached it to my frame at a wiring loom clip.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...8&ppuser=40988

A bit hill billy but it works grate and takes no time to make.

there will be others, that will show some much better idea.

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Thanks for the help here. I have another question for ya. I haven't looked so the answer may be obvious if I look but the pto cover is on the drivers side right? Also the top bolt hole is higher than the five quart fill level correct? I am assuming the answer to both is yes.

Now when you say a bottle pump do you mean the thing that looks like a hand grease gun with a piston inside that can be used to drain the gear oil out of the rears with? You put the plastic tube in the gear oil and pull back on the handle for the piston and it draws the oil out. Or if you draw new oil up into the thing you can fill by pushing the handle in. I think that is what your talking about.

When you fill throught the pto bolt will the tube enter the hole or do you put a threaded pipe in the hole attach the plastic tube to the bottle pump and fill it that way?

Hope you know what I am trying to say. Just want to be sure I understand what your saying.

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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I did it a bit differently. I replaced the fill plug with a 1" pipe nipple coming out of the transmission and then put a 90* elbow on that tightened to point up at a 45* angle. I then screwed in a 3" pipe nipple topped with a 45* coupler to point the opening straight up. I screwed the original fill plug into the top of that. I haven't rigged a dip stick yet but filling is easy. A small funnel will fit nicely into the top coupler and I can fit a standard quart bottle above that to pour into the funnel if I turn the bottle the right direction. Long term plan will be to drill a new fill/check hole at the correct height on the PTO cover and weld a fitting to it so that I can open it and check level.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Flash

Thanks for the help here. I have another question for ya. I haven't looked so the answer may be obvious if I look but the pto cover is on the drivers side right? YES Also the top bolt hole is higher than the five quart fill level correct? I am assuming the answer to both is yes. YES

Now when you say a bottle pump do you mean the thing that looks like a hand grease gun with a piston inside that can be used to drain the gear oil out of the rears with? You put the plastic tube in the gear oil and pull back on the handle for the piston and it draws the oil out. Or if you draw new oil up into the thing you can fill by pushing the handle in. I think that is what your talking about.

Well, kind, sorta, I got mine form NAPA, but it is a pump that you can screw into the top of a quart oil bottle with a plunger on top that pumps the fluid thru a hose that is small enough to fit in the bolt hole. work grate.
When you fill throught the pto bolt will the tube enter the hole or do you put a threaded pipe in the hole attach the plastic tube to the bottle pump and fill it that way?

Hope you know what I am trying to say. Just want to be sure I understand what your saying.

thanks

Know problem, let me now if you need any more clarification of my confusion

O ya and the pump is like $5 to $7 dollar, way cheap!


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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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No your not confusing at all. I just wanted to be sure. I got it now thanks. How long would you say it takes to put the five quarts in the trans? Just a guess. I like the idea of the dipstick. I was goin to put a sight glass in to check the level but thought better of it. I do a lot of towing and get pretty far from home. If I got a leak in the fittings I could easily burn the trans up. I think I'll got with your dip stick idea. Did you take the pto cover off and clean off the magnet?
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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No your not confusing at all. I just wanted to be sure. I got it now thanks. How long would you say it takes to put the five quarts in the trans? Just a guess. I like the idea of the dipstick. I was goin to put a sight glass in to check the level but thought better of it. I do a lot of towing and get pretty far from home. If I got a leak in the fittings I could easily burn the trans up. I think I'll got with your dip stick idea. Did you take the pto cover off and clean off the magnet?
No didn't now there was one in there

I just drained the fluid and filled thru regular hole, then added the rest thru the top bolt of the pto hole. Marked my full mark from there.

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Ok thanks. Give it a try tomorrow. I guess pep boys will have a pump like that. NAPA is closed tomorrow.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Ok thanks. Give it a try tomorrow. I guess pep boys will have a pump like that. NAPA is closed tomorrow.


should, just make sure it has the small hose on it, so it will fit thru the bolt hole!

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Ok thanks.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Talking of taking the PTO cover. Why not, after setting the level and marking it, taking the PTO cover off and in the PTO cover making a fill plug in the cover? Easy to fill and easy to check the level. Specially if it was on the drivers side.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Hey Flash, kinda curious where did you show the 5qt. level WRT your coat hanger dipstick? Seems to me it ought be right about at the level of that PTO hole, or maybe slightly below?
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Those plastic oil-bottle pumps are at Walmart for about six bucks, near the automotive oils, actually with the boat oil stuff; I have one of them; it works good.

Way before they were "invented", I took an empty/clean hand-lotion pumped bottle and made my own by sliding a long length of clear hose over the pumps nozzle; I funnel-filled it with rear-end lube and used it to access the impossible-to-get-at fill-plugs on transmissions, transfer-cases, and fronts/rears; I still use it frequently.

Here is a good idea:

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=141280

Also, there are numerous other threads with dozens of alternate methods.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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That is a great idea and I planned to use it. I've had second thoughts though. Now remember I know not of what I speak but here is my problem. I am on the road towing quite a bit. If I get any leaks in one of those connections it is possible to burn up the trans before I even know there is a leak. I may be over cautious here. If I could be assured it wouldn't be wacked by a stone or something, or vibrate loose I would have not problem with it. I like the idea of being able to see the level at a glance but it may be safer for me to use a dipstick in the top pto hole. What are your thoughts?
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Here is my "at-a-glance" solution:

http://stuff.is-a-geek.net/PhotoAlbu...ics/CTD_33.jpg
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