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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Where can the banjo bolt, snubber,bleed valve,and ball valve be purchased from one source or close to it?
Banjo bolt and new gaskets came from Geno's Garage. http://www.genosgarage.com/CoastalDa...ID=593&CATID=1

Everything else came from McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/

I can scare up a parts list if you want to make an exact copy of "Plumbers Nightmare II".

I think it is very important to have a good shutoff valve on a mechanical fuel (or oil) pressure gauge. The tubing is fragile, and it would suck to be stuck somewhere because your truck has a leak that could have been fixed with a twist of the wrist if a valve was installed.

When the oil pressure line on my old D250 gasser broke one morning, I limped home by stuffing the broken line into the breather grommet. Can't do that with fuel pressure.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Question What Fittings ???

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I put 2 restricted fittings in line and the gauge is steady.


Could you please be a little more specific on these "restricted" fittings??

What did you use??

Thanks.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Where do you get a "snubber"?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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So this tapped banjo bolt that genos has for the 98.5-02 will fit the 1st gens 12 valve? I'm guessing that all they are doing is drilling and tapping a banjo bolt? Thats where everyone is tapping the system for fuel pressure? I think I have a couple spare bolts laying around so maybe I'll just make my own.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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The tapped bolt from genos had a head that's nearly 3 times as thick as a factory banjo. I drilled and tapped mine and am afraid to torque it to proper spec because there's very little meat left once it's tapped for 1/8'' NPT. The thicker head of the aftermarket unit fixes that potential issue

I just read through this entire thread...it's was spooky to see a reply from PB, but, on with the bombing, right good pastor?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Just for sake of arguement, I an running a cheap zero to 30 pound bourdon tube gauge, mechanical, that I installed a light into. I redrilled and tapped the vented banjo bolt for 1/8-27 npt. I purchased a copper gauge line and fittings from Advance Auto and an 1/8 npt to 1/4 tubing angle needle valve from Truevalue and I am quite pleased with the results. To dampen the gauge I just bearly crack open the valve so the gauge reads but doesn't wiggle. To get the valve to adapt to the 1/8th tubing I turned down the ouside of one end of a 1/8 X 1/8 compression coupling to 0.250 inches and installed it into the outlet of the needle valve.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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i use hyd hose for fuel lines oil guage ect cost is very little and and have steel baiding inside hose ,can,t rub through or break from viabtion like copper lines.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeThomas
Where do you get a "snubber"?
McMaster-Carr, of course.
http://www.mcmaster.com/

Get the one rated for air/gases - the "light oils" one still allows the needle to bounce at idle.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Wink And You Know This How ???

Originally Posted by wannadiesel
Get the one rated for air/gases - the "light oils" one still allows the needle to bounce at idle.


I assume you tried the "light oils" one first??

I was just looking at them, before reading your recommendation, and had already decided on the "light oils" one; I guess it's good I hadn't actually made out the order, just yet.

We are talking about the ones that have a tiny filter of some sort inside??(I can't recall exactly how it was worded.)

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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So does a mechanical gauge bounce with an electric fuel pump?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BearKiller


I assume you tried the "light oils" one first??
Yep. BTDT, still bounced a little too much at idle.
Originally Posted by BearKiller

We are talking about the ones that have a tiny filter of some sort inside??(I can't recall exactly how it was worded.)

Thanks.
Yes, the sintered stainless ones are what I use.

Originally Posted by SPINPOSI
So does a mechanical gauge bounce with an electric fuel pump?
It could, depending on the type of pump and how it's regulated.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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I have been looking at this isspro fuel pressure gauge. Genos sells it for 130.00 with tubing and the isolator. I can get the gauge alone for for 30-40 bucks. Is this isolator thing really worth that much?? Or can I just get the snubber from Mcmaster-carr(they are right here and I think i can still get stuff at cost). I like the idea of being able to isolate the system in the event of a leak. All this snubber is is a needle valve right??
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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I'm using a needle valve that allows the gauge to flutter only very slightly at idle when I'm runnnig on the 3/8" supply line. Doesn't flutter at all running off the stock tank. Might throw a snubber in there anyway next time I need a little half hour project to keep me busy and can't find anything better to do. That rarely happens anymore, tho...
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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I was leery of using an electrical gauge, but came across a good deal on a used Westach FP gauge, and bought it. Other than not choosing a permanent location for the sender (currently sip tied to the cruise servo line), I have had zero trouble with it. Not to say mechanical doesnt have its positives, but i am also leery of getting fluids of any type in the cab, esp in cold weather.

Daniel
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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I'm running standard 1/8 OD tubing. How much can you pump through something the size of a needle at 15 psi?
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