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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Front seal pilot tool?

I am trying to install the front crank seal. I do not understand how the pilot tool works. If I fit it to the crank to guide the seal on, how does the pilot tool come off? Does it pull through the seal or does it get cut out?

If I am installing the seal with the timing cover on the bench, as I did, the pilot tool seems to be too tight to go through the seal to be of any use.

I am not used to this type of seal. Any help appreciated.

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Brian
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Clean the crank snout really well, DO NOT lube it. Put the plastic installer on the crank, put the timing cover on, it will be tight going over the installer. Bolt the cover on and pull the installer out. Your done.

To install the seal in the cover, you use the metal instal tool that sets the depth of the seal in the cover.

Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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Thanks.

Unfortunately the dealer still doesn't have one in stock!

Brian
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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I got the seal in place using the pilot tool. The hardest part was keeping the large cover gasket in place. I set a few bolts all around the cover and then from below pushed on the cover and the seal slipped in place over the pilot tool which then came out easily.

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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blueberry
I got the seal in place using the pilot tool. The hardest part was keeping the large cover gasket in place. I set a few bolts all around the cover and then from below pushed on the cover and the seal slipped in place over the pilot tool which then came out easily.
Well since I keep getting membership offers from AARP, I'll call this an "old timers" method of keeping gaskets in place. All you have to do is clean the surface and apply your preferred sealant to the piece, then take some standard sewing thread or thin string and tie the gasket onto the piece using the mounting holes. Mount the piece using all the bolts but only finger tight, then cut the string or thread and pull it out. Actually you can leave the thread in but it looks better without it.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Tying with thread is not a bad idea.

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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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If theirs a CaseIH tractor dealer ship near by. Ask them for a crank seal to fit a 5140 caseIH with a cummins engine they can get it next day with no extra cost to u and the seal is much cheaper. An is a cummins seal they can also get it with a wear ring. $40.00 dollars
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Is $40 for the wear seal or the standard seal and from who?

I paid $34-35 for the standard seal at the dealer in Roanoke.

Cummins Cumberland set their list price 10% higher than the Cummins North America list price that I pay everywhere else.

Happy Holidays,

Brian
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Front Seal number BCA 39805
Redi-Sleeve number BCA 99494
I believe BCA stands for Bearing Company of America.
Part numbers referenced for 1993 Dodge with Cummins from RockAuto.com
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Trebor,

Thanks for the part numbers as some may find them helpful.

My preference is to use dealer parts for engine parts whenever possible. They are usually the most updated, current parts.

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Brian
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