1st Gen. Ram - All Topics Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.

Dumb turbo?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:09 AM
  #1  
CaptainChrysler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 6
From: Ida Grove, IA
Dumb turbo?

Ok keep in mind I am a newby here. Can you bolt a 12cmWG from an HX35 onto my turbo H1C?
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:02 AM
  #2  
SChandler's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
Yes, that is a common upgrade. The downpipe will need to be moved back an inch or so (the wg housing is longer than non-wg) and you will need a boost reference source for the wg to function.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:06 AM
  #3  
CaptainChrysler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 6
From: Ida Grove, IA
Ok thanks. I had read that the exhaust needed moved, that seems easy enough. Just wasn't sure if the hot side bolted on.
What would the compresor sizes be on a H1C, WH1C, and HX35.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:41 AM
  #4  
SChandler's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
From Gillette Diesel's webpage (http://www.gdsdieselparts.com/new_page_2.htm), the H1C (89-91) has 50mm compressor, the WH1C (91.5-93) has a 54mm compressor, and the HX35 has a 56mm compressor.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:08 AM
  #5  
CaptainChrysler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 6
From: Ida Grove, IA
Thanks again.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:31 AM
  #6  
90firstgen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 753
Likes: 1
From: Salina, Kansas
WH1C is second gen stuff. All the first gens have H1C's. 89-91.5 is 50mm and 91.5-93 is 54mm. No MWE's or Wastegates.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:27 PM
  #7  
CaptainChrysler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 6
From: Ida Grove, IA
Ok now more questions....
Can you explain the MWE?
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:15 PM
  #8  
PapeCAT's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,658
Likes: 85
the intake opening has a slot cut in it the full circumference of the compressor wheel about midway through its depth. it prevents compressor stall or "surge/flutter" in high fuel, low rpm, high load situations. It allows boost pressure to be *recirculated* back through the compressor in the event it doesn't have anywhere to go. The MWE slot allows this air to recirculate mid pinwheel rather than blast all the way out the front of the compressor aka surge/stall. It produces a louder turbo sound when it does this as well.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:03 PM
  #9  
stock600's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,197
Likes: 0
From: terrell,texas
good info. does any one know the mm. of the wheel on a switzer 300 for a second gen. some call it a super b i think this is the turbo i have to put on my 93 12 valve think it will work god.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:40 PM
  #10  
Free89W350's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 0
From: Pen Argyl Pennsylvania
Question? I had called HTT awhile back and I was told that the 350's had a larger compressor wheel. Is there any truth to that are not. I said about getting the stage III and he told me that for the one ton I should go with the stage IV because I already had a large compressor wheel. I just was curious if there is any truth to that or not.

Ryan
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:22 PM
  #11  
90firstgen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 753
Likes: 1
From: Salina, Kansas
Originally Posted by stock600
good info. does any one know the mm. of the wheel on a switzer 300 for a second gen. some call it a super b i think this is the turbo i have to put on my 93 12 valve think it will work god.
It just depends on what version. There's an array of compressor/turbine wheels. Most common I believe is the 57mm wheel. There's also 62 and 64mm etc. I think the Super B is the S200 turbine wheel (Can't remember what size it is) With the 57mm comp wheel. Someone else will chime in...
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:53 PM
  #12  
GIT-R-DONE's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 885
Likes: 3
From: Western PA
Originally Posted by Free89W350
Question? I had called HTT awhile back and I was told that the 350's had a larger compressor wheel. Is there any truth to that are not. I said about getting the stage III and he told me that for the one ton I should go with the stage IV because I already had a large compressor wheel. I just was curious if there is any truth to that or not.

Ryan
I believe 90FirstGen has it right. I dont know of any 350's that came with a different turbo on it. Of course, that is just what I was told.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:48 AM
  #13  
G1625S's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,767
Likes: 5
From: port crane, NY
Originally Posted by Free89W350
Question? I had called HTT awhile back and I was told that the 350's had a larger compressor wheel. Is there any truth to that are not. I said about getting the stage III and he told me that for the one ton I should go with the stage IV because I already had a large compressor wheel. I just was curious if there is any truth to that or not.

Ryan

Ryan, even if it is a bigger wheel (57 is the absolute largest it could be) you still don't have MWE slots. Stage III=MWE slots and 60mm, so I don't see how you could go wrong. The stage IV is also 60mm but has a more efficient wheel design, supposedly.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:28 PM
  #14  
90firstgen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 753
Likes: 1
From: Salina, Kansas
Originally Posted by G1625S
has a more efficient wheel design, supposedly.
Correctumundo! It has a higher trim. AKA more lbs./min. at higher boost levels than the stage 3, 60mm.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
IanM
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
4
Jul 4, 2011 09:26 AM
svsjak
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
15
Dec 23, 2009 08:40 PM
JyRO
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
11
Oct 7, 2007 02:19 PM
sodbuster03
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
2
Feb 28, 2007 10:39 PM
AKDSLDOG
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
3
Mar 14, 2003 08:41 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:29 AM.