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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 07:22 AM
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Drilling out the head for better fuel flow

Has anyone done it? I'm making my own fuel system instead of buying a fass or airdog. I just upgraded my line from the fuel filter to IP with 1/2" hose and an8 fittings with m12x1.5 to an8 adapters. But the adapters are rather restricted. I was wondering if anyone drilled out the inlets on the head where the banjo bolts go. 3/8npt to an8 adapters seem like they would flow much better but I'd rather have input before drilling out the head. Thanks for the help everyone
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 12:56 PM
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Still got a VE pump? If so, you're not going to gain much of anything.
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 04:38 PM
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Still got a VE pump? If so, you're not going to gain much of anything.
yea I'm sticking with the VE I'm pushing 400 rwhp and 800 ftlbs right now with not fuel system no intercooler and no water meth on a single turbo. I'm not taking about drilling the banjo bolts. I'm talking about drilling and tapping the head where the banjo bolts mount to accept a 3/8 NPT instead of the m12x1.5 so that it will flow about as much as the AN8 fitting would
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Old May 1, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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Anyone have any input or opinions?
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Old May 1, 2017 | 07:49 PM
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Anyone have any input or opinions?
I got what you are talking about. Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If yes, is it tapped in after the filter? If not, I would recommend getting one.

If your fuel pressure never drops below 2 or 3 psi post filter and head, more flow isn't going to be of benefit to you.
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Old May 1, 2017 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
I got what you are talking about. Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If yes, is it tapped in after the filter? If not, I would recommend getting one.

If your fuel pressure never drops below 2 or 3 psi post filter and head, more flow isn't going to be of benefit to you.
yea I have a fuel pressure gauge after the filter but its not run to the cab so I dont know what it is on the throttle but idle is 5-7 psi with the stock lift pump. I'm making my own fuel system with a walbro 392 cause I can build the system cheaper than but I ng a fass or airdog
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Old May 2, 2017 | 01:40 PM
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yea I have a fuel pressure gauge after the filter but its not run to the cab so I dont know what it is on the throttle but idle is 5-7 psi with the stock lift pump. I'm making my own fuel system with a walbro 392 cause I can build the system cheaper than but I ng a fass or airdog
If that's the case have you though about bypassing the stock filter completely in favor of a remote mount filter head and Cat 1R-0750 filter or the like? More flow and better filtration all in one...
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Old May 4, 2017 | 08:57 AM
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More pressure will certainly benefit a VE.

More dynamic timing advance sooner, more injection pump cooling, and more volume as well if the lift pump bore/lines/sump supports it.

I run a steady 20psi at the head, and my fp never drops below 12-14psi at 3700rpm, even with sizable sticks & a large VE.

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I got what you are talking about. Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If yes, is it tapped in after the filter? If not, I would recommend getting one.

If your fuel pressure never drops below 2 or 3 psi post filter and head, more flow isn't going to be of benefit to you.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 11:09 AM
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More pressure will certainly benefit a VE.

More dynamic timing advance sooner, more injection pump cooling, and more volume as well if the lift pump bore/lines/sump supports it.

I run a steady 20psi at the head, and my fp never drops below 12-14psi at 3700rpm, even with sizable sticks & a large VE.
what kinda fuel system setup are you running? I was gonna go with a walbro 392 bypass regulated to 12psi a prefilter before the pump 1/2" line and an8 fittings with the stock filter head with the fs1221 filter before the injection pump and a nodded fuel pickup in the tank.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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OFELAS use a custom Canada built Pee pump style hard maple wood piston style pump, it holds pressure very well at WOT and what he suggested above has been achieved on his rig

VE will always benefit from cooler fuel and more flow/pressure to a point.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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Gizmodo - My supply system consists of - A1000, billit dual filter housing, aeromotive boost referenced regulator, AN10 lines, fuel coolers on supply and return, 20 gallon aluminum cell with fuel resistant-anodized cooling coils in it.

Flatbed - I'm not sure where the reference to maple wood comes from. Are you inquiring about my previously used sub 420hp piston pump details or the new one?

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what kinda fuel system setup are you running? I was gonna go with a walbro 392 bypass regulated to 12psi a prefilter before the pump 1/2" line and an8 fittings with the stock filter head with the fs1221 filter before the injection pump and a nodded fuel pickup in the tank.
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OFELAS use a custom Canada built Pee pump style hard maple wood piston style pump, it holds pressure very well at WOT and what he suggested above has been achieved on his rig

VE will always benefit from cooler fuel and more flow/pressure to a point.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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Where did you get a maple wood Pee piston pump capable of supporting 420HP? Does it have a different bore size?

Your electric system sounds very familiar.......
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Old May 4, 2017 | 01:50 PM
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IDK about 420hp, that was at the front 33's running on 5 spark plugs.
New one has something like NASA quality machining for the cylinder, and the piston was a Wiseco built unit with ring lands lowered. Dual custom springs that are rpm controlled. NO COIL bind possible.
It's a large bore piston pump I got from "nascar" Mark Wilson at Dieseltuff with a few different stout psi springs - gave me 1465 at the rear wheels with a tuning fork.
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Old May 5, 2017 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ofelas
More pressure will certainly benefit a VE.

More dynamic timing advance sooner, more injection pump cooling, and more volume as well if the lift pump bore/lines/sump supports it.

I run a steady 20psi at the head, and my fp never drops below 12-14psi at 3700rpm, even with sizable sticks & a large VE.
Better cooling? How? If no more fuel is moving through the pump, how is stacking more pressure at the inlet making anything cooler? If anything, the extra pressure is creating more heat.

As for the dynamic timing, simply pull a shim or two from behind the KSB if you want it to advance sooner.

As for your "large" VE, it is the same size as the rest of ours.
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Old May 6, 2017 | 08:42 AM
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So in your example you would want a worn out oil pump to keep your oil pressure down to make less heat inside your engine?

As far as you comparing your 12mm home tweaked ve to OFELAS Giles built pumps you must be smoking the devils lettuce.


Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
Better cooling? How? If no more fuel is moving through the pump, how is stacking more pressure at theinlet making anything cooler? If anything, the extra pressure is creating more heat.

As for the dynamic timing, simply pull a shim or two from behind the KSB if you want it to advance sooner.

As for your "large" VE, it is the same size as the rest of ours.
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