brake rotors
#16
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you want a real upgrade for a few bucks, go with 14" rotors, got 2015 dual piston calipers that are 3 times the size of d-60 calipers, got caliper brackets from torqaxle "big brake conversion" , and calipers from car-part.com salvager, way better stopping, especially moderate braking, alot more with less pressure. anyone else done this?
#17
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check torqaxle.com "big brake conversion" has all necessary specifics, buy their caliper brackets, source your own rotors and calipers, im 2015 dodge 2500, im running the rear disc conversion from tsmmfg.net "the street rod manfacturing" dual rear caliper bracket, 12" rotor, 7" single piston caliper, (d44 front) and their own mechanical e-brake caliper.
#18
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I don't remember how many mile were on them before the 91.5 was destroyed in a wreck. But they where doing the job a lot better than the OEM use too. The holes and slots did a very good job of keeping the brakes from fading, especially when being pushed down a long hill by a heavy trailer. They also seemed to have much better stopping power than the OEM.
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#21
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I have said this before and I still believe it,I believe that the Chinese make the products to the specifications of the customer, with the materials wanted by the customer. If the products produced by China are crumby, that is the fault of the customer. If Raybestos, for example, has crumby brake discs, it is what they ordered. Disclaimer: I just used Raybestos as an example and in no way saying that they have bad rotors, I have no idea about that. I suspect that all of these companies check their deliveries from China and if they are bad, they would let China know or find a better manufacturer.If they don't, run away. All my opinion...Mark
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#22
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For us old guys, remember when we use to say the same thing about stuff made in Japan? Now they are among the top manufacturers in the world.
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#23
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I read somewhere that when GM first approached Japan to supply the engine for the "new" luv mini pickup, they laid down exactly what they wanted, including saying that they want no more than 2% defective parts. The Japanese deliberated on it and told GM that they don't know why GM wanted 2% of the parts to be bad, but that they can do that. Their standard was 100% good parts. Sounds believable to me...Mark
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#24
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Ha, ha, that's good.
I too have heard that China just makes what the company specifies - good, bad or otherwise. I've been there several times and it is AMAZING what they have and can accomplish. A very talented culture and people. They just have to do what their government makes them do...
I may try the drilled and slotted Cougar got. Not going to 17" wheels even though that brake conversion sounds good.
I too have heard that China just makes what the company specifies - good, bad or otherwise. I've been there several times and it is AMAZING what they have and can accomplish. A very talented culture and people. They just have to do what their government makes them do...
I may try the drilled and slotted Cougar got. Not going to 17" wheels even though that brake conversion sounds good.
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#26
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That's because they build stuff in their own country, I own an ammco brake lathe and I can tell you.. some of the Subaru rotors are the best I've seen. Heck.. a crappy brake drum from the 60's can be brought back to life and the steel is awesome. These chinese rotors may be made to spec but when you start lathing down a 2019 cheap rotors and chunks literally come off.. that is bad manufacturing. It's almost like the steel never got hot enough an cause pitting/rust into the metal. You can't see what is beneath the metal until it proves otherwise. The only way I can turn CHYNAH is put fine grooves every 2mil and then smooth it. Otherwise ripping though the face on auto mode just doesn't happen. In all honesty, most people don't waste their time and chuck these rotors and buy new ones.
#27
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That's because they build stuff in their own country, I own an ammco brake lathe and I can tell you.. some of the Subaru rotors are the best I've seen. Heck.. a crappy brake drum from the 60's can be brought back to life and the steel is awesome. These chinese rotors may be made to spec but when you start lathing down a 2019 cheap rotors and chunks literally come off.. that is bad manufacturing. It's almost like the steel never got hot enough an cause pitting/rust into the metal. You can't see what is beneath the metal until it proves otherwise. The only way I can turn CHYNAH is put fine grooves every 2mil and then smooth it. Otherwise ripping though the face on auto mode just doesn't happen. In all honesty, most people don't waste their time and chuck these rotors and buy new ones.
#28
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I'll just go with the thicker if it doesn't matter.
#29
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I do not have an older 1.25"-rotor'ed D60 to see if the rotors direct swap. Pirate4x4's D60 bible refers to the GM/Dodge outers as being the same; except for the internal/external hub styles.
#30
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My front brakes at least are shot and I'm looking at the Brake Performance website now. My W250 is a 4x4 and has the 4500lb front axle. I'm unsure if it has the 11" or 12" rear drums.
Were 12" drums on W350 duallies, W350 single rear wheel only or were they available on W250s as well?
Were 12" drums on W350 duallies, W350 single rear wheel only or were they available on W250s as well?