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Old 10-07-2019, 08:42 AM
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you want a real upgrade for a few bucks, go with 14" rotors, got 2015 dual piston calipers that are 3 times the size of d-60 calipers, got caliper brackets from torqaxle "big brake conversion" , and calipers from car-part.com salvager, way better stopping, especially moderate braking, alot more with less pressure. anyone else done this?
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You cobble all that together or is there a write up somewhere? Sounds interesting...
Ditto; I'm also interested. And will the stock 16" steel wheels fit over this upgrade? TIA...
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check torqaxle.com "big brake conversion" has all necessary specifics, buy their caliper brackets, source your own rotors and calipers, im 2015 dodge 2500, im running the rear disc conversion from tsmmfg.net "the street rod manfacturing" dual rear caliper bracket, 12" rotor, 7" single piston caliper, (d44 front) and their own mechanical e-brake caliper.
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How many miles on them and how are you liking them?

And in general, what are the slots/drill holes for? Heat dissipation? Improved braking?

Summit has Raybestos for $55 ea but doesn't state country of origin.
I don't remember how many mile were on them before the 91.5 was destroyed in a wreck. But they where doing the job a lot better than the OEM use too. The holes and slots did a very good job of keeping the brakes from fading, especially when being pushed down a long hill by a heavy trailer. They also seemed to have much better stopping power than the OEM.
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Did know there was rotors /pad made in usa? Seems like even the best rotors are CHYNAH
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Did know there was rotors /pad made in usa? Seems like even the best rotors are CHYNAH
I have said this before and I still believe it,I believe that the Chinese make the products to the specifications of the customer, with the materials wanted by the customer. If the products produced by China are crumby, that is the fault of the customer. If Raybestos, for example, has crumby brake discs, it is what they ordered. Disclaimer: I just used Raybestos as an example and in no way saying that they have bad rotors, I have no idea about that. I suspect that all of these companies check their deliveries from China and if they are bad, they would let China know or find a better manufacturer.If they don't, run away. All my opinion...Mark
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For us old guys, remember when we use to say the same thing about stuff made in Japan? Now they are among the top manufacturers in the world.
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For us old guys, remember when we use to say the same thing about stuff made in Japan? Now they are among the top manufacturers in the world.
I read somewhere that when GM first approached Japan to supply the engine for the "new" luv mini pickup, they laid down exactly what they wanted, including saying that they want no more than 2% defective parts. The Japanese deliberated on it and told GM that they don't know why GM wanted 2% of the parts to be bad, but that they can do that. Their standard was 100% good parts. Sounds believable to me...Mark
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Ha, ha, that's good.

I too have heard that China just makes what the company specifies - good, bad or otherwise. I've been there several times and it is AMAZING what they have and can accomplish. A very talented culture and people. They just have to do what their government makes them do...

I may try the drilled and slotted Cougar got. Not going to 17" wheels even though that brake conversion sounds good.
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Not going to 17" wheels even though that brake conversion sounds good.
I like 19.5's...If you're going to growl, you might as well be a grizzly......Ben
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For us old guys, remember when we use to say the same thing about stuff made in Japan? Now they are among the top manufacturers in the world.
That's because they build stuff in their own country, I own an ammco brake lathe and I can tell you.. some of the Subaru rotors are the best I've seen. Heck.. a crappy brake drum from the 60's can be brought back to life and the steel is awesome. These chinese rotors may be made to spec but when you start lathing down a 2019 cheap rotors and chunks literally come off.. that is bad manufacturing. It's almost like the steel never got hot enough an cause pitting/rust into the metal. You can't see what is beneath the metal until it proves otherwise. The only way I can turn CHYNAH is put fine grooves every 2mil and then smooth it. Otherwise ripping though the face on auto mode just doesn't happen. In all honesty, most people don't waste their time and chuck these rotors and buy new ones.
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That's because they build stuff in their own country, I own an ammco brake lathe and I can tell you.. some of the Subaru rotors are the best I've seen. Heck.. a crappy brake drum from the 60's can be brought back to life and the steel is awesome. These chinese rotors may be made to spec but when you start lathing down a 2019 cheap rotors and chunks literally come off.. that is bad manufacturing. It's almost like the steel never got hot enough an cause pitting/rust into the metal. You can't see what is beneath the metal until it proves otherwise. The only way I can turn CHYNAH is put fine grooves every 2mil and then smooth it. Otherwise ripping though the face on auto mode just doesn't happen. In all honesty, most people don't waste their time and chuck these rotors and buy new ones.
I am sure that what you say is the truth but that doesn’t mean that they don’t have different tiers of quality of the steel that they use. I bet that if the customer really cared about it they would get a better product. I am not a fan of China, but neither am I a fan of big American corporations...Mark edit: I should have said ANY corporation...
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Ever since I figured out the Dodge used two rotor thicknesses on the D60 front with the same caliper; I will run the 1.5" rotors down to 1.25"ish.

Also never had a rotor warp on me on the GM/Dodge style Dana 60.
So the same caliper works on both rotors? I went to order from Brake Performance and they have them in 1.125" and 1.465". Why in the world did Dodge have two options for the same DANA 60???

I'll just go with the thicker if it doesn't matter.
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So the same caliper works on both rotors? I went to order from Brake Performance and they have them in 1.125" and 1.465". Why in the world did Dodge have two options for the same DANA 60???

I'll just go with the thicker if it doesn't matter.
I'm guessing they ran into warping issues with the weight of the cummins, so they went to using the 1.5" thick rotor GM always used. Or Dana streamlined production at the end of the kingpin 60 era.

I do not have an older 1.25"-rotor'ed D60 to see if the rotors direct swap. Pirate4x4's D60 bible refers to the GM/Dodge outers as being the same; except for the internal/external hub styles.

Originally Posted by sooty
you want a real upgrade for a few bucks, go with 14" rotors, got 2015 dual piston calipers that are 3 times the size of d-60 calipers,
3 times the size? Really? Our single-piston D60 calipers with 3-3/8" pistons are already large. The increased swept area of a larger rotor is the bigger gain.
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My front brakes at least are shot and I'm looking at the Brake Performance website now. My W250 is a 4x4 and has the 4500lb front axle. I'm unsure if it has the 11" or 12" rear drums.
Were 12" drums on W350 duallies, W350 single rear wheel only or were they available on W250s as well?


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