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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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Brake Parts

On the way to church yesterday, my D350 started making metal to metal noises in the left front brakes. Found the front caliper hold down was broken and the caliper was cockeyed in the carrier. That's the second one in the last couple of months. (Blue did this a short time ago)

New hardware kit self bent as it went in. The little center clip is dead soft, and instead of resisting the torque from the bolt it just folds up.

The question is----- where can one buy decent parts?

I'm going to go through the whole works in a week. New pads and shoes, and new wheel bearings and seals in the back as well. I'm tired of the self destruct nylock bearing nut, so I'm going with stage-8 xlockers.

The last time I tried to buy shoes, I got some at O'reilleys and they were so obviously bad that i didn't even put them on. I welded up a set that had bad e-brake ears on them and put them in. Those are also mis-aligned at the cylinder.

Another question. What friction parts should I buy? Auto-zone has been mentioned as decent, but which one? With the PacBrake, I'm pretty easy on the brakes, even when towing the train.

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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My napa rear shoes were pos relines. Those are also mis-aligned at the cylinder.

Went to Everett Brake&clutch Brake & Clutch Supply got Raybestos NEW made in mexico. Riveted, Cylinder is strait. Whats the lining sorry I dont recall. All I know Is they Work And I"m happy.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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Raybestos part # 316 PG

I did some internet snooping P# 316 PG comes back from the internet you get what you pay for junk stores as bonded.

Mine are riveted.
As a boat owner I will not but bonded shoes. I need my E-Brake to work and work right


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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 11:14 AM
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Raybestos part # 316 PG

I did some internet snooping P# 316 PG comes back from the internet you get what you pay for junk stores as bonded.

Mine are riveted.
As a boat owner I will not but bonded shoes. I need my E-Brake to work and work right
Copy That

Raybestos makes a premium riveted version BS314R
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 12:53 PM
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[QUOTE=j_martin;3278871]Copy That

Raybestos makes a premium riveted version BS314R[/QUOTE

The part # I got came off the invoice

BS314R e bay # 331441183323 looks like what I got.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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I'd love to see a caliper conversion bracket that converts from the stock
metal on metal slide type to the 80's style Gm 12" caliper they use on the gm trucks.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 10:17 AM
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Dang. Off side brake shoes spit out a hold down on the left side. Has to be fixed right now. Had to cancel rear end service. Too much noise to diagnose the gears.

Guess I'll just throw in AutoZone brake shoes for now if they look halfway straight.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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Could someone tell me where the rubber band looking parts in this kit go?

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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
Dang. Off side brake shoes spit out a hold down on the left side. Has to be fixed right now. Had to cancel rear end service. Too much noise to diagnose the gears.

Guess I'll just throw in AutoZone brake shoes for now if they look halfway straight.
How far are you from minneapolis?

I would assume there would be a real brake&clutch shop.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 06:34 AM
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Carquest has a fairly new line of frictions, I think they are called TEQ . I put a set of the front pads on with turned rotors. The best the truck has stopped in the time I've owned it.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
Could someone tell me where the rubber band looking parts in this kit go?

On the sun visor.





Really I have no Idea.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
Could someone tell me where the rubber band looking parts in this kit go?

The bands get stretched out along the parting line of the support and caliper under the retainer, supposed to keep dirt out. They usually break and fall out anyway. Its better to take your calipers off every year or so to clean the slides and re lube.

D350 brake pads have more pad area and will work on D250's in case the D250 folks didn't know that BTW.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim5870
The bands get stretched out along the parting line of the support and caliper under the retainer, supposed to keep dirt out.
Is there a chance you'd have a photo or illustration?
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mknittle
On the sun visor.





Really I have no Idea.
Nice....
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 07:16 PM
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Finally, after the brake cable bruhaha I got to putting in the autozone shoes today. Held them in the turned drums and figured out that they'd be down to the rivets in the middle before the ends saw cast iron.

So I bought a set of Bosch Ultra-stop shoes at another parts store. Threw in the left side and the parking brake tang is way short.

Is it just me, or is the whole parts scene going to he!! in a handbasket?

What do I do now. Weld on a $50 set of shoes to get by, or wait another couple of days to try something else that might work? (NAPA has no shoes other than the cheap relines in stock)

Just called NAPA. They said that even their ultra premium ($70) shoes are remans.

I guess I'll just go eat worms.
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