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Old 11-09-2002, 01:57 PM
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alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

ok what are the plates ?? #4,5,8 ETC. and where do they actually go and what is the purpose. Be kind I'm noobie. <br>I know TST makes them.and it doesn't look like it should cost that much but I guess were paying for the engineering.?? <br>my 95 is supposedly? making 270/640 without a plate . these numbers seem optimistic judging by what I am reading here the last few days. <br>the trans has already been upgraded so I want to know my next logical HP step. DAVE
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

The 215 hp injector pumps put out more fuel/power than the 160 &amp; 180 pumps. Plates 10,11 &amp; 12 are mainly for the 215 pumps and 5,6 &amp; 8 for the 160/180 pumps.

You should find answers to other plated related questions at www.tstproducts.com.

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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

crossy ....<br><br>I don't think your HP is optimistic with what you're running now ... put in a set of 370's and a 16cm3 turbine housing ... then tell us how big the smile is on your face
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How can I find out what pump I have? My truck already came with the plate that is sapposed to achieve 230/605. I wouldn't be opposed to MORE POWER.
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

Tim-D, a 97 auto would have the 180 hp P-7100 pump. The TST #8 plate is rated for 230/605 with the 180 hp pump. A #6 is supposedly good for 250/635 in the 180 pump.<br><br>Jerry
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

Thank you.<br>now my next question is, will the #6 plate make more smoke. the reason I ask is I finaly figured out how to adjust the fuel pump with the star wheel, and a small adjustment made for considerably more smoke with WOT.
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

Tim,<br><br>I have the # 6 plate, plus the other mods you will see in my sig. Smoke, or lack of, is largely dependent upon boost vs fuel delivery- So much adjustment can be made with the AFC- course adjustment by moving the whole housing forward (more fuel) or back (less). The star wheel allows a finer adjustment of the same. I like to set the housing and use very little tension on the spring (star wheel). That way fuel delivery can respond to boost quicker.<br><br>Right now, I have very little smoke, mostly light grey at WOT. My throttle response is getting good. I just put in the Piers 3k GSK and it definitely makes a difference. You can install it through the top, where the fuel plate normally sits (I learned that on another thread). It was fairly easy using just a big screw driver and a magnetic retriever. I just carefully rolled the engine over backwards using a 22mm socket on the alternator pulley nut. Now I'm thinking about making my auto shift at a higher rpm- manually shifting at about 2700 is really fun! ;D
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

crossy,<br><br>I would suspect that Jessup pump tune you mention would have something to do with your fuel plate, moved up at least, but likely something hotter than stock.
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

OK what is a Piers 3k GSK, where do I get one and how much does it cost. I am not sure what you meant when you said you moved it forward.<br>thank you
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

www.piersdiesel.com<br><br>the 3000 governor spring kit allows for more fueling on the top end. your stock truck starts cutting the fuel at around 2200rpms. the lower # plate, essentially the more horsepower yo're going to get. sliding a plate forward gives more horsepower too (more fueling) with more smoke and higher egts. you can slide your stock plate forward to get some more fuel too, but the horsepower/torque/fueling curve isn't as good (matched) as an aftermarket plate.
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

Tim,<br><br>What 98 RAMMER said. <br><br>The governor spring kit is available from many of the vendors listed on the links page.<br>A great guy to talk to is Rod at Wildcat Diesel (http://www.wildcatdiesel.com/index.htm).<br><br>I was referring to moving the AFC housing forward or back. See <br>http://www.dieselpage.com/tstpk.htm <br>for a good overview on the fuel plates and AFC adjustments.
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

Could a timing adjustment cut down on the amount of smoke? If so what should I set it at. I live in SoCal and the treehuggers are going to hunt me down, even though my smoke is gray (not black) and only at low RPMs.
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Re:alrighty then ,I'll just ask > PLATES? HP upgrades

Tim:<br>I also live in So. Cal. and am expecting the tree huggers any time. The best way I have found is to roll into the throttle until between 10# and 15# of boost and then go for it. <br><br>I can smokum out on the freeway if the turbo isn't spooled up but if I let the turbo spool first only grey smoke and I can see what is behind me in the mirror ;D<br><br><br>Set your timming at 15.5* or 16* to help cut EGT temps and smoke. Adjust the preload on the AFC diaphram to &quot;0&quot; preload when you install the 3,000 GSK kit.
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