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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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12 valve head studs

I've been looking at getting a set of ARP head studs for my 97 was told that the rocker arm mounts had to have the backs of them machined in order to make room for the washers and nuts that take the place of the stock head bolts for the ones under the valve covers. Is there any truth to this? I havent lost the head gasket yet but am pushing 52psi under full throttle and would like to prevent it from failing. Any help is much appreciated,

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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yeah I'd like to know also and one more thing how much does something like this cost???
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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It is TRUE. The early design arp studs did not require it. Virtually any you purchase now will be the new design which requires, .200 off the top of the rocker mount.

Cost......I dont know.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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I had been told with that little of machining you could clearance the valve cover with a drill press and some time.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Huh thats wild. i dont know why they'ed go from ones that dont need machining to ones that do. what a pain! has anyone had this done?
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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ive got 2 sets of machined rockers if you guys want some. all they do is take about 1" outa the top.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by crabbelle
ive got 2 sets of machined rockers if you guys want some. all they do is take about 1" outa the top.
One inch???
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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That is a great deal more than .200 of an inch
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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I would go with the PDR 14mm stud kit, it is stronger and you can do the work yourself to handle the larger studs. Sometimes a higher initial price is actually less expensive, and this is one of those times.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Talking 14mm

With these you have to have the block machined!
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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how is it easier with the PDR 14mm stud kit? just cureious. i need to do some thing quick. my buddy's 12v just blew his headgasket yesterday and now i'm convinced mines next in line to go if i dont do something
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RCW
I would go with the PDR 14mm stud kit, it is stronger and you can do the work yourself to handle the larger studs. Sometimes a higher initial price is actually less expensive, and this is one of those times.
ARP 625's would be cheaper than the 14mm once you factor into the machine work, not to mention the labour to pull the engine to do said machine work. It is also said that removing material from the block will weaken, and cause more distortion than the 12mm.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Yes machine work is not cheap, and pulling an engine out and stripping it is costs even more.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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so it sounds liks 12mm ARP head studs and some rocker mount machining is the way to go
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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have you looked at A-1 studs. does anyone know if they need any machine work done?
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