Fuel Additives - Dodge Diesel

JAKE03CTD2500 · 06-12-2005, 08:52 AM

I alternate between a couple of fuel additives. I have herd of people running ATF in their fuel for lubrication , but then again I've heard ATF will gum up injectors... is this true.

Also I'd just like to say this is a great site. I think its awsome to see people helping other people and showing off pics of their nice trucks too.

MikeyB · 06-12-2005, 09:21 AM

Do not use ATF fluid. Modern ATF fluids contain friction modifiers that can wreck havoc on the pump and injectors. Just use a diesel fuel additive.

MikeyB

Chip · 06-12-2005, 10:49 AM

Yea Jake,
Exactly what Mikey said, ATF is a big no-no in diesel fuel. I'm currently using Power Service Diesel Kleen and Cetane boost that you can get at your local Walmart for around $5.00 for a bottle. I have used Stanadyne Performance Formula in the past on my older trucks and really liked it. I have just started using the Power Service stuff andtime will tell if I like the Power Service stuff over the Stanadyne stuff. The only reason I am running the Power Service stuff is because it's easier for me to get. If I don't like the Power Service stuff. I will be changing back to the Stanadyne. Good luck !
Chip

coobie · 06-12-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by JAKE03CTD2500
I alternate between a couple of fuel additives. I have herd of people running ATF in their fuel for lubrication , but then again I've heard ATF will gum up injectors... is this true.

Also I'd just like to say this is a great site. I think its awsome to see people helping other people and showing off pics of their nice trucks too.

I have been useing the stanadyne PF formula since day one in my 2004 305/555 motor.No one here locally in S.Michigan carries stanadyne,I have to order it from Indiana (scheids diesel).Good stuff IMHO.coobie

Lightman · 06-13-2005, 12:14 PM

Coobie, and how much water do you find in the fuel from your fuel filter cannister each time you change the filter?

sweetwaterguy · 06-13-2005, 07:32 PM

I would be interested in expanding the question. Who has run an additive like Stanadyne or others and have fuel economy numbers both with additives and without additives?

coobie · 06-13-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Lightman
Coobie, and how much water do you find in the fuel from your fuel filter cannister each time you change the filter?

Lightman,I have found none.I change mine every 5,000 miles with the oil and filter.coobie

4x4not · 06-14-2005, 07:41 AM

I just started adding 16oz of Power Service Diesel Kleen & Cetane booster to each tank now, so we'll see if that ups my milage or not. I guess it'll be kind of hard to tell though, since my engine isn't fully broken in yet and am getting about 0.5mpg better on each tank already. But for less than $3 per tank, I'm gonna keep adding it. It can't hurt, right?

06-14-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by 4x4not
I just started adding 16oz of Power Service Diesel Kleen & Cetane booster to each tank now, so we'll see if that ups my milage or not. I guess it'll be kind of hard to tell though, since my engine isn't fully broken in yet and am getting about 0.5mpg better on each tank already. But for less than $3 per tank, I'm gonna keep adding it. It can't hurt, right?

Fuel additives should be used primarily for lubricity and keeping injectors clean. IF you get increased mileage, that is just an added bonus.

MonroeDiesel · 06-14-2005, 11:27 AM

Schaeffers makes an excellent additive (schaefferoil.com) better lubrication than any additive out on the market. 1 gallon of the winter blend will treat 1000 gallons

routerguy99 · 06-14-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by MonroeDiesel
Schaeffers makes an excellent additive (schaefferoil.com) better lubrication than any additive out on the market. 1 gallon of the winter blend will treat 1000 gallons

Thats what I have been using since I have bought my truck, I use it about every 3 tanks. It works great, I have less noise at an Idel then other's.

It also seems to run better when I use it. Scheffer's will stand behind there products as well. One guy I know that uses Schaeffer's has had no problems or lift pump problems on his truck, He usally trades his trucks in when he hits 600k, That has really sold me on it.

The Domie · 07-15-2005, 09:30 PM

I know we hashed this over before, but I thought I'd do an update.
After using straight PS and seeing little change in mpg, I went to ps and mmo mix and saw about 2 mpg increase, but the mixing is a pain in the ***, so I tried straight mmo, with little or no increase.
This trip we started with no additives and ran about 11.3 (13000lb 5er) , about 150 mi., after fuel stop and adding straight lucas additive, mileage went up to 13.3, next 150 mi.
Interesting.

Rattlerattle · 07-15-2005, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by JAKE03CTD2500
I have herd of people running ATF in their fuel for lubrication , but then again I've heard ATF will gum up injectors... is this true.

I would not be using ATF. But I have heard of 2 cycle oil being used for lubrication.

I get Power Service at the cheveron card lock, same place I pickup delo 400 oil.

Texcowboy9 · 07-16-2005, 09:03 AM

I usually fill up when the tank takes only about 20 - 24 gals. I add 12 oz PS and 4 oz MMO.

mikmaze · 07-16-2005, 09:20 AM

I'm surprised no one has tried to used wd40 in their tank, the non aerosol bottles sure would pour right in there, but to any benefit? half a joke half curiosity.

06-12-2005, 09:21 AM	#2
MikeyB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tomball, Texas Posts: 7,151 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Do not use ATF fluid. Modern ATF fluids contain friction modifiers that can wreck havoc on the pump and injectors. Just use a diesel fuel additive. MikeyB __________________ 2003 2500 2wd SWB Quad Cab Laramie, 305/555, NV5600, 3.73LS, Line-X, Westach boost/EGT combo gauge, PML diff cover, Airbox mod, Hurst 6spd Shift ****, Adjustable boost elbow, Toyo OC AT 285/70/17 E, Daystar 1.5" lift, Monroe Reflex, Raptor RP100, Lazarsmith Intake Horn, HID SMARTY Sr./Van Aaken C3.2

06-12-2005, 10:49 AM	#3
Chip Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gloucester, Va. Posts: 206 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Yea Jake, Exactly what Mikey said, ATF is a big no-no in diesel fuel. I'm currently using Power Service Diesel Kleen and Cetane boost that you can get at your local Walmart for around $5.00 for a bottle. I have used Stanadyne Performance Formula in the past on my older trucks and really liked it. I have just started using the Power Service stuff andtime will tell if I like the Power Service stuff over the Stanadyne stuff. The only reason I am running the Power Service stuff is because it's easier for me to get. If I don't like the Power Service stuff. I will be changing back to the Stanadyne. Good luck ! Chip __________________ 2003 3500, Black, Laramie, DRW, HO CTD, Auto, 4x4, Quad Cab, 3.73 LSD, Leer 100 XQ topper, stainless step bars, 2 inch front leveling kit, AFE Pro- Dry stage 2, 235 80 17 Nitto Dura Grapplers, Bilstein 5100's, Carli upper ball joints, 1 piece rear drive shaft conversion, turbo back 4 in. Silverline exhaust, FASS, Amsoiled ! Dodge makes it- Cummins shakes it. A member of the "Over 100k mile club". 2012 VW Jetta TDI DSG - Toffee Brown

06-13-2005, 12:14 PM	#5
Lightman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 2,483 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Coobie, and how much water do you find in the fuel from your fuel filter cannister each time you change the filter? __________________ 2004 2500 4x4 HO/48RE Laramie/Sport - Line-X, Jordan, Wet Okoles, Dynamatted, Scotty's intake, WinchReady Front/Rear Bumpers w/PIAA's, DPP 4" Exhaust, RDS 51 Gal Tool/Tank Combo, Amsoil Oil Bypass System, Boost/EGT/FP Gauges, Edge Hot Juice, Super-B, Kore Chase Suspension, Weld Wheels w/ 35" Toyo Mud Terrains, full DTT trans w/billet shafts, MITUSA fuel system.

06-13-2005, 07:32 PM	#6
sweetwaterguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wyoming Posts: 119 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I would be interested in expanding the question. Who has run an additive like Stanadyne or others and have fuel economy numbers both with additives and without additives? __________________ 2004 Short Box, Extended Cab 4wheel drive 373 gears, 6 speed

06-14-2005, 07:41 AM	#8
4x4not Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,162 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I just started adding 16oz of Power Service Diesel Kleen & Cetane booster to each tank now, so we'll see if that ups my milage or not. I guess it'll be kind of hard to tell though, since my engine isn't fully broken in yet and am getting about 0.5mpg better on each tank already. But for less than $3 per tank, I'm gonna keep adding it. It can't hurt, right? __________________ 05 Ram 2500 CTD610 NV5600 4.10 4x4 QC SWB . . . . . . . . . . HOT Juice, ConFE, GDP 392 Comp, S&B, Straight Pipe. . . . . . . . . . . Leveled, Bilsteins, MTZ 315s. 97 TJ Lifted. Locked. Unstocked. The tow toy. Back under the knife!

06-14-2005, 11:27 AM	#10
MonroeDiesel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bothell,WA Posts: 107 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	Schaeffers makes an excellent additive (schaefferoil.com) better lubrication than any additive out on the market. 1 gallon of the winter blend will treat 1000 gallons __________________ 05 2500 mineral grey short bed 6spd, Lennys honed injectors (DDP), SBC CON OFE,Superchips Flashpaq (tow safe),Rokktech, AFE Magnum Force and torque tube. Autometer Gauges. Super B installed 5-20-05. Bilstein 5100's, Aeroturbine, minus kitty and muffler, B&W turnover, Jordan ultima 20/20, Schaeffers and Redline synthetic.

07-15-2005, 09:30 PM	#12
The Domie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: everywhere Posts: 163 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I know we hashed this over before, but I thought I'd do an update. After using straight PS and seeing little change in mpg, I went to ps and mmo mix and saw about 2 mpg increase, but the mixing is a pain in the ***, so I tried straight mmo, with little or no increase. This trip we started with no additives and ran about 11.3 (13000lb 5er) , about 150 mi., after fuel stop and adding straight lucas additive, mileage went up to 13.3, next 150 mi. Interesting. __________________ 07, 3500, Laramie ,4x4, quad cab, sb, srw, 48re w/3:73, Gunmetal grey, leather, Amsoil single bypass system, Amsoil head to toe, Mag-Hytec DD, Mag-Hytec front & rear diff. covers, Toyo Open Country HT, Bilsteins, Banks High Ram, AFE air intake system, FASS HD-150, Edge W/Attitude unlocked, 5" turbo back, DTT tranny internals , Pacbrake, 08 Travel Supreme 5er puller.

07-16-2005, 09:03 AM	#14
Texcowboy9 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 171 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I usually fill up when the tank takes only about 20 - 24 gals. I add 12 oz PS and 4 oz MMO. __________________ 2004.5 Quad Cab Ram, Cummins 600 (now 610), Auto, FloPro Muffler, Airaid drop-in, 3:73 rear anti-slip, Flame Red. LineX over the rails and on tool box, PIAA headlights, XM Radio, Westin Step Bars.

07-16-2005, 09:20 AM	#15
mikmaze Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cedar Grove, New Jersey Posts: 3,502 My Photo Gallery My Classified Ads	I'm surprised no one has tried to used wd40 in their tank, the non aerosol bottles sure would pour right in there, but to any benefit? half a joke half curiosity.

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