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Cutting Diesel with K1?
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From what I hear, K1 will not improve performance, unless it is winter when the fuel is prone to gelling. I knew NYDOT people who plow Adirondack Mt. roads. They sometimes cut D2 as much as 70%!!
Do not try this at home. K1 does not have much lubricity, unlike D2. Injectors need lubrication provided by the correct fuel. PLUS the BTU energy available is better in D2. If you want performance, find a D2 with a high Paraffin content. The stuff that gells fuel, makes more energy when burned.Anyone know if recycled cooking oil, aka Bio diesel, has any performance or lubricity advantages? I here that if the B number is high enough, you will constantly be craving fries with that fill up!!
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Higher lubricity of Bio diesel is only one of its advantages. Hold the fries ....
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2% bio (B2)will increase the lubricity of straight #2 by 60%
This is more than a entire gallon of your favorite diesel additive in a 35 gallon tank will increase lubricity.
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i just wonder why I keep seeing stations selling 10 to 20 gallons of Kero when its like 95+ degrees here. A few gallons to clean parts, maybe....unless someone is stocking up? I just cant believe that this many people are buying such large quanaties this time of year
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I wouldn't be surprised if some of the fuel we're already buying is cut with K1.
A story I once heard from a fuel delivery tanker driver was that some fuel stations would cut their diesel deliveries with kerosene to increase their $$$ margin.
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The low price of K1 is because there is no road tax on it. There would be no real gain to a gas station mixing kerosene with diesel, they don't get to keep the tax money collected at the diesel pump.
Kerosene will give lower power and fuel economy. The P-pump in a '94 is tough as nails, if you want to run kerosene with a lubricity additive you won't hurt it.
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i worked for a fuel and oil hauler for a while and they hauled kero sometime and if you looked at it, it looked just like Red No.2 diesel. I guess since there is no road tax it was dyed red. I wouldn't think filling stations would be dropping this in the tank to cut the diesel. But who know maybe you can get kero without dye in it.
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K1 around here is clear.
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I've seen several people filling with #1 in the summer, think they do it because it costs more and they think they are getting a higher powered fuel. I never say anything but think some people need to read their owner's manual. |
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K1 works great in jet engines, but running them on D2 will produce more power. At the phone company, our standby power plants were either diesel engines or gas turbines. D2 worked in both, but the fuel systems on the jets was very picky about debris. K1 is almost always clean as a whistle and JP-4 (aka kerosene strained through a T shirt) was even cleaner.
I would not use K1 in doses higher than 20%, unless you really are going to experience temp below -20. I experienced a gelling condition only once while living in NY state. It was -27 that morning, and it struggled to go 55mph. By afternoon, it was +7 and the old truck was back to normal, 80+ no problemo.
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The lowest I've seen around here for clear kero is 2.19. I'm stocking up before the retail stations get the first load for the season. Imagine what the price will be then.
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