I just put diesel in my tank for 2.99 99/100 . I drove over to six diesel stations and are were priced exactly the same! I smell trouble brewing in the economy real quick like!

Lets see.... trucking industry,,,,locomotive, shipping..... inflation at the retail level, travel industry. New diesel truck industry. If diesel is going through the roof, who would buy a diesel truck?

This is starting to get bad

Brad

saw one station up here at 3.18 price went up over .40 in 8hrs:mad:

shoot, that makes my 2.30 (which i thought was outragous) look good.

Well, it will all bet better again in about 20-30 days. Apparently, they took down (for maintenance) the refinery that makes diesel for CA. I don't know the entire story, but that is supposedly what is driving the cost of fuel here in CA through the roof.

We shall see. I did a search for fuel prices on the Flying J web site last night, and Kalifornia is the only place where the prices are this bad.

and I felt bad yesterday at $2.19

tell ya what, I will sell diesel to you for $2.25 and you pay shipping
as you can see I will only be making 6 cents a gallon. This is not price
gouging in the least, just a small profit for me.


Thank you for your support

59

Yeah, so, Greasecar or Greasel?

2.99 here as well...

When my turck is up and running i am going to grease it! But i will not be spending 1100 bucks on a grease car kit(that are on back order) I will be making my own. It can't be that hard! tap into the antifreez for the heating then I'll have to tap into the fuel line somewhere. I had a buddy just do it with his VW and it his kit came with a sheet that tells everything you need to biuld your own.

Diesel here is 2.53, I was up north this weekend and it was between 2.38 and 2.42. It was cheeper then gas! Thats the way it should be in the summer.

Coop

$2.88 here (SW Washington State)

been driving the Rabbit [redface] for awhile...

This is NOT good news. I hope this stays on the Left Coast.
I was pushing the wife into a VW TDI, now having second thoughts?? It's bad enough we already have one vehicle that takes $65.00-$70.00 to fill up.:rolleyes:
I can't believe how volitle the pricing is, we are still hanging in around $2.30-$2.49 a gallon.

Wow are we lucky. Were in Spartanburg SC right now and it $2.14. Hope we don't get sent to CA.:o

Has anyone heard the latest about the government trying to keep us from making bio-diesel?
How is the price for the methonol and the Lye,
I am sure they will raise the price on it and try to make it so expensive so we will not try to make it.
I heard they are already trying to make you have a haz/mat license and insurance to haul the WVO from the source.
Ill bet you they will now make methonol and lye a hazardous material and require you to have a license to purchase it, especially in any quanity. Just a bad feeling.
Jim

Methanol is a hazardous material -- it is really, really nasty stuff. Carcinogenic, bad for the liver, and quite flammable. As for lye -- all you need is a wood stove. [laugh]

Hadn't heard about bio-diesel transport requiring a haz-mat placard, but if you keep it under 100 gallons, you should be safe anyway.

$3.29 yesterday in So. Cal. Truck is parked, driving my other car. $60 for a 1/2 tank.
This is starting to hurt.

Casey

how do you get lye from a wood stove?

Strange price structure these days. We were just out the I-5 in Kettlemen city where diesel is usually real low at the truck stop/Beacon. It was $3.00 a gal at the surrounding stations and $2.90 at Beacon. Odd thing was up in the mountains where its typically 20 to 30 cents a gal higher it was 20 to 30 a gal lower?? who`s screwing who? I saw on TV a few months ago a Saudi oil minister state" This year the profits are at all time highs" Yeah were all gettin hosed Id say.

If you soak ashes in water, lye will leach out of the ash into the water. That's how folks used to get lye for making soap . . . you need to catch up on your re-runs of the Beverly Hillbillys [laugh]

I'll see if I can find some reruns on cable[laugh] [laugh]

so then how do you get the lye out of the water? can you just boil the water off?

Just go to Google (or your favorite search engine) and type in "making lye". You'll get just about all you need to know. Wonderful thing, the information superhighway.

and while your there check out how to make moonshine [laugh]

Originally posted by Alec
Methanol is a hazardous material -- it is really, really nasty stuff. Carcinogenic, bad for the liver, and quite flammable. As for lye -- all you need is a wood stove. [laugh]

Hadn't heard about bio-diesel transport requiring a haz-mat placard, but if you keep it under 100 gallons, you should be safe anyway. it is really, really nasty stuff. Carcinogenic, bad for the liver,

Now were you talking about Vodka and cigarettes or makin bio?:eek: :eek:
Or maybe rot-gut shine.[laugh] [laugh]

Now were you talking about Vodka and cigarettes or makin bio?
Or maybe rot-gut shine.

All of the above. :D

Theoretically you can steep the ashes, then boil the water off, and have a useable mix of potassium and sodium lye. I think that the fuel costs for all that distillation (I guess wood in this case) would get pretty high. I don't know what kind of yield you would get. "Journey to forever" has a little blurb about it in their biodiesel section.

It sounds as though Jim is volunteeing to set up a travelling still in the back of his truck -- from cornfield to cornfield, eh? A grinder/press, still, and biodiesel reactor -- you could distill ethanol from the corn, use that to make the biodiesel and have some left over for "liver tonic" . . .

I've been running WVO for a year now. Here a couple good forums on using it.
http://www.frybrid.com/test.htm
At least read the first two posts at;
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=frm&s=447609751&f=159605551
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The new reason for the price hike is that they shut down all of the refineries in the golf coast because of the huricane. but the darned thing is'nt suppose to hit till tomorrow morning sometime. jumping the gun a little arent they.:confused:

yep oil is $70 give or take a barrel and ive seen #2 going for 4 a gallon... think i need a jetta tdi...

I have heard a Rabit diesel mentioned. Are they a good car? I think I found one localy for sale.

Was 2.79 at QT today in FT Worth so guess we arn't the worst YET

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