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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Trailer/weight questions.....

Alright, well I looked at a gooseneck a week or two ago. Twin 7000# axles, brakes etc, around $4500 brand new out the door. The guy said the trailer weight was around 3500#'s, which gives me 10,500#'s of load capacity. With 400 brake rotors....I'm already there.

So, I got to thinking. I don't want a trailer with the wheels under the bed cause it raises the deck of the trailer higher than I need or want. So that eliminates 10,000# axles with duals. I have been tossing around the idea more and more about building a trailer. This way I could build it how I want it, and get the actual weight of the load higher after I subtract the trailer weight. So I was thinking about this, 22' gooseneck, with 3 7000# axles all with brakes which would give me 21,000, minus roughly 4000# for the weight of the trailer leaving me with 17,000# of load capability. Which I believe should pretty much cover anything I'll ever need to haul. I plan on renting a dozer from work, a John Deere 450 which tips out at 16,000#'s and I would much rather haul stuff myself instead of paying for it to be hauled ALL the way to my house.

So if I did load it with 16,000#'s, plus the 4000# for the trailer equaling 20,000#'s total, is a 2500 ok with that? I guess I mean legally. The reason I have to ask is because my truck had work done before I bought it and the morons did not put the sticker back in the door. Then after my accident in July, same thing, the body shop did not put a sticker back in the door. So I basically have no idea. I know with the triple axle setup the trailer would bare the brunt of the weight as far as being loaded with 16,000#'s. I know the truck(engine/trans) are more than capable of pulling it, but would it weigh out right if I got pulled over by the weight police? I know I would have to register it for that as well, or at least close. I don't plan on hauling that heavy all the time and probably pretty rare, unless I haul a farm tractor or something to fix.

I know, I know, you guys are saying, "why such overkill if you won't be hauling frequently?". I like to do things once. I don't like to buy something and then a month or year later go, darn.....I need something bigger. The utility trailer I have has served it's purpose, but with the addition of the Dodge to our driveway....it has pretty much shrunk down to useless size.

So I guess the final short question would be.....if I loaded it with 17,000#, plus 4000#'s for trailer weight, triple axles all with brakes is that gonna be to much weight as far as door sticker for my truck??

Thanks for any info!!


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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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Yes.

Your TOTAL weight should be about that (including the truck).

Would I worry about it? No.

I would go for the triple 7's. Tandem duals are o.k, but like you said, extra deck height and two more tires to fool with.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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I think a 22' triple GN will weigh significantly more than 4K #...

the 20' GN I built out of steel rectangular pipe weighs 4500# fully dressed:

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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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PJ, I happened to notice where you lived......that's funny!!
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dodgeguy71
PJ, I happened to notice where you lived......that's funny!!
You seen it?

One of the funniest pieces of sketch comedy in recent years.

I live in Port Deposit, MD.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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Check out my deck over - it has the pierced frame so it is low, and it has the 20,000# weight rating - it's in my gallery.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Dodgeguy, I have an 18' goose neck built by a local company. The trailer weighs 3840# and is rated for 3500# on the tongue. It uses two 6000# drop axles and has a GVWR 15,000#. After Katrina hit I made several runs south with bottled water. We would load two pallets, side by side, then push them forward, for a total of eight pallets. The water and packaging weighed about 9600 lbs and was mostly carried by the trailer suspension. I have noticed a small difference in the tire wear on the RF tire since then. I would encourage you to reconsider using drop axles if you're going to haul heavy regularly. -Rick-
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