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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Tires for heavy daily towing

I'm about to replace my 285/75 dueler revos. I pull 10,000 lbs almost daily, and the weight has destroyed these tires. 30K miles and they look like drag slicks. Gonna put some all season highway tires on, not sure what size to go with. Want an E rated tire, hoping to avoid the little stock 245's if possible. Looked on tire rack site, considering the Kumho road venture HT's. What are the tire numbers that tell you how wide the tire track is? I'd like to put tall but narrow tires on, think that would be pretty good for towing, but not positive. Any recommedations on tire brands/sizes from experience?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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Tall narrow tires, go with a 235/85/16. 235mm wide casing, sidewall height is 85% of width, fits a 16" rim.

As for reccomendations based on experiences, nothing but you ge what you pay for. But if you had the Revo's you already know that.

I thought the Revo's had a 60k warranty? My buddy with a set of them bought them for the warranty.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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I'm not sure about the warranty. The truck found a piece of rebar last year and rammed it through the sidewall of the front tire, and had to replace it for $240. Didn't look into the warranty, not sure how all that works. Wish I'd kept the stock LTX michelins now. Aren't 235's really little? I don't want the rollerskate look, have to retain some respect here in ford country.

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Hey DT,
You're right about the 235/85's. Just looked them up on tire rack, the 85 is what determines the height. That's what I'm going with I believe. Thanks man.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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If you really want some tires that are going to last... Michelin XPS Rib or XPS Traction. They will run a little under $200 each but are ALL STEEL!

P.S. For tires right now (Not XPS ribs but others) Discount Tire Direct has free shipping. I just ordered 7 235/85/16E's for $92 each,shipping included.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Timberman
I'm about to replace my 285/75 dueler revos. I pull 10,000 lbs almost daily, and the weight has destroyed these tires. 30K miles and they look like drag slicks. Gonna put some all season highway tires on, not sure what size to go with. Want an E rated tire, hoping to avoid the little stock 245's if possible. Looked on tire rack site, considering the Kumho road venture HT's. What are the tire numbers that tell you how wide the tire track is? I'd like to put tall but narrow tires on, think that would be pretty good for towing, but not positive. Any recommedations on tire brands/sizes from experience?
Heavy towing tires in a 16" size:

Toyo H/T
Goodyear Workhorse
Toyo M55
Michelin XPS Traction

A 235/85 is a good choice, but only if you don't have 16x8 wheels. 8" wide is too wide for a 235. If you have 8" wide wheels (which you probably do), stick with 265.

The best way to long tire life with heavy towing is installing 19.5" commercial rubber (like a Rickson setup), but it's pricey.

jmo
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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For an E-rated high-mileage highway towing tire, the Michelin XPS Rib is an excellent choice. If you need a more aggressive tread, the Michelin XPS Traction is worth a look.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick Campbell
If you really want some tires that are going to last... Michelin XPS Rib or XPS Traction. They will run a little under $200 each but are ALL STEEL!

P.S. For tires right now (Not XPS ribs but others) Discount Tire Direct has free shipping. I just ordered 7 235/85/16E's for $92 each,shipping included.
Yup


i have seen those tires before. And the oil well people here use them extensively. it is not uncommon to get 85K or more out of a set of those tires.

Tx
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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That's great info yall. Just what I was looking for. I checked out a bunch tire sites, I think the XPS is the way to go. The rib would be OK, I love the looks of the XPS Traction, don't know if they'd last very long on the highway though. I'd get them in a minute if I thought they'd last a while. Gonna see what they go for locally. Thanks!
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Might want to look for a Discount tire store. They have a warrenty that will replace or repair a tire for ANY reason, hole thru sidewall from fence post--Dog chewing hole in tire (done that one)
Also free tire rotations and if you take a quote to them from another company they will beat that price
Been buying from them for years and they have always done me well. Had a tire cut during the nite when i was in a motel in Mo last summer and had to buy a replacement . Took Discount the bill when i got back to Mich and they reimbursed me --
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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The stock tires on my truck were 245/75 16's, the wheels are 6.5" wide. Will the 235/85/16's change up my gear ratios a lot, as there are fewer rev's per mile? The duelers I'm replacing changed my speedometer by 10%, meaning when it said I was doing 60 I was actually doing 66 or better. Also made it a little tougher on the brakes and towing. I found out you can get the michelin XPS ribs or traction tires at walmart & Sams club, they are slightly higher than most websites but they don't charge shipping. I'm gonna check them out today. I'm hoping the traction tires would last me 50 or 60K, they really look cool and I don't want to have to buy another set of tires just for winter snow/mud and hunting season.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:49 AM
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Timberman, bookmark this website:
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

The new tire size will result in the speedo reading 4.1% too slow (60 on the speedo is really 62.5). Those are generic figures but close enough for govt work.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Timberman
The stock tires on my truck were 245/75 16's, the wheels are 6.5" wide. Will the 235/85/16's change up my gear ratios a lot, as there are fewer rev's per mile? The duelers I'm replacing changed my speedometer by 10%, meaning when it said I was doing 60 I was actually doing 66 or better. Also made it a little tougher on the brakes and towing. I found out you can get the michelin XPS ribs or traction tires at walmart & Sams club, they are slightly higher than most websites but they don't charge shipping. I'm gonna check them out today. I'm hoping the traction tires would last me 50 or 60K, they really look cool and I don't want to have to buy another set of tires just for winter snow/mud and hunting season.

Careful buying tires at Sam's unless you just buy the tires and leave! I bought a set of 4 tires there for my wife's car about 12 yrs ago. Tires were $40 apiece. I thought > well I might as well let them put them on. 3 hours later I was ready to go. Went to pay and it was about $250 . I told them I wanted to keep the old tires for a trailer, but I still had to pay a disposal fee, plus taxes, plus this, plus that. I haven't bought tires there since. Just a little friendly caution...................
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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I tow with the Kumho Venture tires you mentioned - so far, very happy with them Had them on for almost a year (20k miles for me) and tow an enclosed 8k trailer - no wear as of yet and a smooth, quiet ride. They also do well in rain which was another requirement for me. Can't beat the price either.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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My sons 96 3/4 ton went 90,000 miles on a set of XPS Michelins. Keep in mind they are not worth a flip in the snow or real heavy rain. Just slow down in the rain.

You don't get much snow where your at but when you get it, its usually a truck load from a coastal storm.

Spent a long time around Kent Island and Stevensvillle.

Dave
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Timberman
The stock tires on my truck were 245/75 16's, the wheels are 6.5" wide. Will the 235/85/16's change up my gear ratios a lot, as there are fewer rev's per mile? The duelers I'm replacing changed my speedometer by 10%, meaning when it said I was doing 60 I was actually doing 66 or better. Also made it a little tougher on the brakes and towing. I found out you can get the michelin XPS ribs or traction tires at walmart & Sams club, they are slightly higher than most websites but they don't charge shipping. I'm gonna check them out today. I'm hoping the traction tires would last me 50 or 60K, they really look cool and I don't want to have to buy another set of tires just for winter snow/mud and hunting season.

285's on a 6.5" rim ?? that's part of the problem right there. it will pull the sidewalls in too much.
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