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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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I need a different brake controller!

I just bought a 36' flat deck, gooseneck. It has electric over hydraulic disc brakes on it. Right now, I have a Prodigy, and I keep hearing that a inertia type controller is not recommended with this brake setup.

Any suggestions?

(The brakes are out on the trailer at the moment, so I havent tried them with my prodigy)
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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i did a little looking and from what i can see the prodigy wont work but dont take that to the bank cause it was another for on another site i cant find now and the dealers websight didnt say anything about it.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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I know the prodigy wont work. Im asking what other controller I should get.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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the guy said he went with the voyager
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 05:22 AM
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Prodigy P3 allows electric over hydrolic.
http://www.tekonsha.com/p3.html
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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The Brakesmart will work I believe, all though it's rather pricey. There's also the Brakemax,,,,or what ever it is that pop's up at the top of the page on the advertising banner here.

http://drperformance.com/brakesmartcontrl.html
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Brakesmart is excellent on anything.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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just a quick question, what is so different about how the controllers control the braking system for the electric/hydraulic? I don't own one but would like to know what the controller needs to do differently.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Brakesmart is excellent on anything.
Bob, you smooth talker, you.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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The Brakesmart has an extermely high failure rate. I would consider the Maxx Brake or the Hensley Tru-Control.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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The Brakesmart has an extermely high failure rate. I would consider the Maxx Brake or the Hensley Tru-Control.
I don't know where you got your info from but only one guy on here has had a problem that I know of.... I love my Brakesmart.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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just a quick question, what is so different about how the controllers control the braking system for the electric/hydraulic? I don't own one but would like to know what the controller needs to do differently.
I have a Carlisle Hydrastar, elctric over hydraulic actuator (for disc brakes), on my trailer. This is what Carlisle says about it, per their site:

"Prodigy and Sentinel controllers were not compatible with the Carlisle HydraStar trailer brake actuator. Using these controllers with the HydraStar resulted in false error signals from the controllers and “clicking” from the HydraStar. Both of
these problems were the result of the electrical verification pulses sent out by the controller. When the pulses hit the HydraStar instead of the electric brakes on a trailer, it issued an error code. The pulse also momentarily turned on the HydraStar’s motor, creating the “clicking” noise. This start/stop off the motor could damage the HydraStar."
I just purchased the new Prodigy P3, which has a setting specifically for electric over hydraulic brakes. I hope it works well.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cokarl
The Brakesmart has an extermely high failure rate. I would consider the Maxx Brake or the Hensley Tru-Control.
I have a Brakesmart. I would like to know where to find out more of what you are talking about so I can prepare myself for any future problem's.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by na4now
I have a Carlisle Hydrastar, elctric over hydraulic actuator (for disc brakes), on my trailer. This is what Carlisle says about it, per their site:



I just purchased the new Prodigy P3, which has a setting specifically for electric over hydraulic brakes. I hope it works well.
Carlisle now actually makes a module that allows you to use their hydraulic actuator with a Prodigy or a Ford Tow Command controller. Have a customer who pulls a Carlisle-equipped trailer using a Prodigy. It has worked well.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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all "07" 0r newer Carlisle brake actuators are compatible with the prodigy or pre 08 fords. Do a search on my posts..I gave all of the part no's
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