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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Dump trailer advise

Looking for information from experienced users/buyers of tandem axle tow behind dump trailers.

I will be using it for:

1. all around yard maintenence hauling debris...rock, sand garbade etc.
2. moving an old FORD 640 tractor about 9 miles twice a year.

I am thinking of something around 8000-10000 lbs. A 2ft side wall would work good for me. Stake pockets for those tree looses debris hauling.

What are some good features to look for?
Any brands to stay away from?

Thanks DTR members
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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just a thought..... but if you need 8-10k then buy 16-21k trailer..... awful easy to load up a dump trailer really heavy really quick..... and gooseneck is also a plus.....
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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I have a 6x10 6 ton that I used when building my new house and it has been a life saver. Everytime I think I'm done with it and get the itch to sell it I end up filling it up with junk/stone/mulch etc.. The only mistake you can make is the one I did don't get a single piston. Spend the extra $$$ and get a twin piston. With garbage and mulch mine is great but with dirt and stone anything more than half full I need to unload it with the machine cause it won't dump.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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I have a 7 ton from canadatrailers and it works very well and the quality is very good. It's a single piston and I have only had it stall once and that was with 7 yards of crushed limestone. Hope this helps.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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my father bought a bri mar (i think) and the factory tires we not even rated to handle the trailer empty much less loaded. make sure that they will handle the load. he just happened to check and sure enough every one on the lot was the same way. he made them upgrade to the proper ones before he left.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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I have had texas bragg 20' tandum duals with one huge piston and overloaded it many times where I have had to have the dozer or excavator help get the box up. I also have used a come along with a hook on the box to get some loads up. I also have a 16' north shreve but that one is kind of a utility/dump. Look at the texas bragg type doors as there are as good as it gets. I have seen plenty of inferior door types having to end up being bound to stay closed under heavy pressure. Just don't go with those two piston on the seperate sides of the trailer design. You want a scissor piston one large or two small. Charging is the issue with these trailers, you have to rig up a hard wire from the diesel through the bed or keep a trickel charger on the trailer when not in use. Big weight = gooseneck but it sounds like you can do a pull behind which is much more easy to work with. Get ramps and one that has the pump not under the box.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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We have Brimars at work. They Pull well, the tires they came with were not rated high enough. the boxes have large capacity, but with only one ram cant usually pick up a full load. They are good for yard waste or stall bedding, but heavy stuff like manure or mulch is too much. I'd like dual wheels and twin rams. Charging is the big issue,
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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As far as charging goes I bought the parts from napa and ran a wire from the diesel battery to a plug next to my six pin and then ran another wire from the trailer battery the matching plug so it is charging while I drive and while I dump, works like a champ but remember those wires are always hot. I have seen a loader move a goosneck and pinch the wire on the trailer, not pretty. Always keep fire ext. handy.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Jacobsen, out of the Fresno area builds good trailers. They stand behind their product as well.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Whichever you buy get the ones where the dump bed is above the wheels.
I had one where the wheels were on the side and when loaded it the wheels were actually touching the box especially on turns.
I blew a couple of tires and ended up having a shop "bend" slightly the axles so it looked like this \ / empty but loaded was like this l l (if you look at the tires from rear or front).

The box on top makes it taller, so you will need longer ramps but will save you a lot of hassles.

And yes, if you can go gooseneck take it. I had 10,000lbs GVW with gravel on my pull behind and max speed was 50mph or it would fishtail immediately, which would have meant rollover.

I finally sold the POJ and bought myself and old Chevy C60 with hoist, pocketed a couple of extra thousand $$ and have no more problems. Insurance is only $ 15.00 month, and I use it at least twice a month.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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We have a Load Trail, gooseneck, 6x14, one large single cylinder (with scissor) with 2 ft metal sides plus 1 ft of wood.

It has tandum axles (no duals) so the bed is inside of the wheels. It has done everything ask of it including hauling and dumping a load of wet sand. Maybe when the cylinder gets older it will not dump, but it has so far.

One of the advantages of having the bed inside of the wheels is that it (the sides) sits lower and is easier to load.
Also if you want to haul equipment on it, the ramps can be shorter.

It is a very handy piece of equipment.

George
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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I have a 6'x12' 10k with 3'6" sides that I bought out of Yerington NV at Trailers Plus made by Innovative trailer mfg. It came with ramps, spare tire, and a cover. I looked all over the place before I bought and found some, even though they were 10-12k# trailers, were a little flimsy with their construction. The one I decided on is built for work, and I use it at least 3 times a week for the last 4 years. Never had any problem with it. I've had anything from a mini excavator/skidsteer, to 3-ton of sand/rock in it, but I mainly haul debris off my jobsites.

Heres a link:
http://www.innovativetrailermfg.com/
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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We have a Stohl 7 ton 7x16 gooseneck, good trailer. It's been overloaded quite a few times, had to use the skid loader to help it lift.

It's flatbed with stake pockets for 3' side boards. The battery and tool box is in front
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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I have a Big Tex 14K GN dump trailer, has a single scissor, marine deep cycle battery. Great trailer, I have hauled it to the max without any problems. I like the GN over the BP because you can get it into tight places. As far as the battery charging, I installed a small solar panel on top of the battery box, keeps it trickle charged and the battery fresh all the time. Probably my only complaint about it is I would have like in-cab dump controls, that would have made it better using it. Kind of a PITA when the load needs shifted back to empty it, would have made tailgaiting gravel effortless and without the need for a rake or shovel. By the way, the price of the trailer was right at 10K.

CD
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Two words; Carson Trailers! They come in all sizes and capacities and are by far the best out there. I own a landscape co. and have had four of them in the fleet and never any problems from them. I suggest the 18' duel axle dullies 18,000lbs GVRW, $7500.00. Look around and then find your self a Carson and you will see what I mean when I say the other brands are cheply made with thin metal.
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