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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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DOT and Log books questions

I am hauling a trailer to a trade show in Vegas next week. The truck weighs less than 10k and the trailer weighs about 8600#'s. The truck is a company ford f350 that is all lettered up and has DOT #'s, the trailer is a pavement reheater. Do I need to have log books to haul this combo?
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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If the gvwr of the trailer is less than 10k you should be fine.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Thanks, that is what I figured.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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No, you shouldn't have too. We have full size 80,000 lb tankers here that do. But I also have several F-450's rated at 15,000 lbs and TopKick C-4500's rated at 17,500 lbs that also tow trailer's that are rated under 10,000 lbs. Our trucks all have a CA Number and a DOT number. None of those guys need to run a log book. They go through the scales several times a week and have been pulled in for inspections. Never had a problem not running them.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Thats all wrong if either the gvwr or the combined gcwr is over 10k and you are commercial you have to log have a med card and all that fun stuff. Without the trailer as long as the gvwr is under 10k you are ok. Its right on the us dot website if you doubt me. There also different rules for how you log if you are short haul (under 150 miles I believe).
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by haulin-rv
Thats all wrong if either the gvwr or the combined gcwr is over 10k and you are commercial you have to log have a med card and all that fun stuff. Without the trailer as long as the gvwr is under 10k you are ok. Its right on the us dot website if you doubt me. There also different rules for how you log if you are short haul (under 150 miles I believe).
I drive a comcrete truck tagged at 79,900 lbs and we do not have to do log books due to short haul laws
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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If you are driving the company vehicle and you cross state lines you had better have a log book. If you drive outside a 150 mile radius of where the truck is based you must have a log book and a med card if the combined GVWR is more than 10,000 lbs.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Ya and don't pass any weigh stations, don't ask me how i know. It is a moving violation not to stop at one if the door sticker is over 10K. The officer didn't care what the registration said, he looked at the door sticker (it said 14K) and then wrote me a ticket.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rpainter
I drive a comcrete truck tagged at 79,900 lbs and we do not have to do log books due to short haul laws
Must be nice
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scottsjeeprolet
Ya and don't pass any weigh stations, don't ask me how i know. It is a moving violation not to stop at one if the door sticker is over 10K. The officer didn't care what the registration said, he looked at the door sticker (it said 14K) and then wrote me a ticket.
that is what sucks about the different states in md the dot guys look at the door sticker,in va they measure our trucks hub to hub and figure out what the truck should weigh and in wv they look at our registration.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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YES legally you have to log.

If ANY of the following: GVW GVWR GCW or GCWR is over 10k and you are going more than 100(26k)150(10k) miles away/not coming back to your "terminal" the same day/night you need to log...
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick Campbell
YES legally you have to log.

If ANY of the following: GVW GVWR GCW or GCWR is over 10k and you are going more than 100(26k)150(10k) miles away/not coming back to your "terminal" the same day/night you need to log...
Whatever happened to all your plans for hauling? It seemed like you had so much effort in it.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Ya know, if your driving a 3/4 ton p/u and towing a trailer with single wheels, just git the **** thing and drive. Ive drove my dually and my tounge pull (reg. at 12,000lbs) all the way from PA to MI to CA and never stopped at a weight station and never got looked at. Take it for what its worth. Just go.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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So what I'm getting out of this is if he pulls this trailer with a regular truck like most of ours that he is not subject to all these regulations, but since it is a company truck with dot stickers all rules apply?
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 03:04 AM
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Just go down the road and don't act like you are guilty of committing some serious crime. You could prob get away with driving right on by any scales. Or you could pull on in and be all nervous like....
I've had my CDL since 1983. Owned my own truck till 96, and still drive a part time. I've been asked to show my log book 2 times. One of which I was within 150 miles (as a crow flies) from my base or yard or whatever.... I gave them a walk around book instead.
So.....chances are good that they wont even notice you....so don't sweat it.
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