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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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chevy duramax

Was just watching the Saturday A.M. shows. They had this "truck" program. They slightly modified this 04 duramax dually with Bully Dog products...electronics and exhaust. Of course, they then took it out and tested it. They hooked it up to a tractor trailer with a wide load dozer in trailer. The host stated the entire load was 130,000 lbs. The chevy in 4X4 pulled it. I was impressed.

All those fellow dodge owners, can our trucks set up properly do the same?
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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I saw it to, I was not impressed. They did not pull it very far or very fast. It was a stupid "test" indeed. Any truck with a little weight to it and a low enough gear could have pulled the same load. Hooking it to a big trailer would have been a better test, and draging it up a hill. My bone stock 92 Dogde 1-ton with it's earth shattering 160hp could have done the same thing in those circumstances if it was in 4-low range, and I guarantee that Chevy was in 4-low too.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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had one of my dodges gross out at the scale around 42k pulled the load about 25 miles where it needed to go and it would go a lot faster then it needed to if i wanted to so yea like Luke said it dont take much to pull but a lot more to haul
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Luke S
I saw it to, I was not impressed. They did not pull it very far or very fast. It was a stupid "test" indeed. Any truck with a little weight to it and a low enough gear could have pulled the same load. Hooking it to a big trailer would have been a better test, and draging it up a hill. My bone stock 92 Dogde 1-ton with it's earth shattering 160hp could have done the same thing in those circumstances if it was in 4-low range, and I guarantee that Chevy was in 4-low too.
They do those kind of pulls every year, and every year since the D-max has come out, it has won. It makes it up the hill in the least amount of time and at the highest top speed. At close second seems to be the Cummins. The D-max just makes more power and can tow more easier. They make way more power than whats ever needed with a couple boxes on them. Where the difference comes in is the Cummins will pull 25K easy the same as the D-max, but will last 500,000 miles or more doing it. The D-max PROBIBLY wont last as long.

I bet a 4 banger Toyota would pull 150K in 4 low. Those strong man pulls where they pull jet liners are about the same.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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there is a pic in diesel power mag jan 06 of a bone stock 03 ton crewcab 4x4
with the 600ft lb cummins pulling a caterpillar 777d mining tuck with a gross vehicle weight of 155,684 pounds so the d-max doesnt impress me
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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DC must not have officially released the pic taken here for the launch of the "600" series cummins, they hooked too the worlds largest dump trucks with a rope in the tar sands here in alberta. Then they let the clutch out in first gear giving no fuel and subsequently IDLED away with this 150,000 pound dump truck. BTW the truck was in 4 HI...and not 4 LO!
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Ok, worlds strongest man competitions?? Anyone seem that?? Big bus on a flat level surface?? Giant man with straps in front of it? The hardest part....overcoming the force holding the bus stationary, after it starts rolling....well, most of those big guys get a rythm and pull on with it. I would say overcoming that force holding the trailer/dozer is the hardest part, getting it rolling, then it's a cake walk. I see the commercial with the Freighliner(silent stab at Daimler/chrysler), loaded with cars and Cheby dude pulls up and, "hey you need a hand?"(BS) and pulls away in his 1500/2500 whatever 6.0L gasser like he's gonna get up the next hill with this tractor/trailer behind him. I agree, not a very impressive test, pull it up Mount Eagle here in Tennessee and then slow it down the other side and stop at the bottom and I'll be impressed......
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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There was a guy on either the DTR or the TDR with a second gen. Dodge/Cummins that bought a 40'+ flatbed gooseneck trailer in TX., drove up to NE. & loaded it up with a metal building that had been dismantled, a vehicle hoist, ATV plus other items. He ended up weighing over 43,000lbs.

Towed it up to Alaska!!! Had no problems other than at the Canadian border. They couldn't weigh the load & sent him to the next town. The scales were closed over the weekend & he didn't want to wait a couple of days so he headed for the AK border & made it.

The only scary part was going down a large hill in AK. There was a town at the bottom of the hill & he wasn't sure the brakes would be up to stopping him. Everything worked out well, though.

Also, heard about a guy that hauled a loaded train car that weighed a huge amount.

Joe F.(Buffalo)
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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42k and 130,000lbs is a big difference. props to the duramax.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by StrokeThisCTD
42k and 130,000lbs is a big difference. props to the duramax.

Your right, BUT, Pulling 130k 1/4 mile at 6mph is a lot different than hauling 43k from Nebraska to Alaska. As I said before, I could have pulled the same thing with my bone stock 160hp 92 Dodge as they did.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Just moving some heavy weight is nothing compared to actually driving down the highway at speed. I've scaled 42k and moved it 300mi at 65mph through a few hill in the Branson MO area. Well only 45mph on those hills. That was in a 300hp 97 Dodge diesel. Funny how I seemed to pass all the travel trailer guys on those hills. Actually I averaged my loads at 34k through that area for 3 years, just one that hit 42k. I didn't have a exhaust brake just 2 12k axels on the trailer with vacume over hydralic DISK brakes on the trailer. No problem stoping.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Ramtdo2,

Is that in Albian(?) Sands?? Saw and article where they owned like 27 of these or something. If that is the Caterpillar 797 you are talking about it's more than 150,000lbs. More like 288 tons or 576,000 lbs, car and driver says curb weight is 560,000lbs. Guess it's kinda hard to know for sure, don't think the local CAT scales will help out there!! Here is an article or two on the 797 itself, I wonder what took over top notch in the largest dump truck competition?

http://www.carchaos.com/miscellaneou...terpillar_797/

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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The actual weight of the item being pulled has no bearing on the subject. It's the rolling resistance your working with here. They could have easily done this on a slight islope in favor of the pull and had very little rolling resistance. It's all advertising and apealing to someone emotions, rather than showing true facts and numbers.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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The only reason the Duramax is winning any of the stock competitions is the better in stock form automatic transmission. Like tree dr said the hills and hollars around here where you are stuck below 50 mph and have to excellerate out of a curve and up a hill show who has the torque. You hear all of the V8 diesels screaming at the top of their powerband while climbing as they have to gear down to make the pull.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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[QUOTE=pwrtripls1]They do those kind of pulls every year, and every year since the D-max has come out, it has won. It makes it up the hill in the least amount of time and at the highest top speed. At close second seems to be the Cummins. The D-max just makes more power and can tow more easier. They make way more power than whats ever needed with a couple boxes on them. Where the difference comes in is the Cummins will pull 25K easy the same as the D-max, but will last 500,000 miles or more doing it. The D-max PROBIBLY wont last as long.

They have a pull every year in montana (not sure if that is the one you are refering to) and yes the Duramax has come out on top every year. But it is going against a cummins with a auto Never once have I seen a cummins with a manual. You guys that think a MOD Duramax can our do a MOD Cummins are simply crazey. I ran against several Duramax in truck pulls not once was it even close. Pull 130K big deal (Hell even the 6.0 powerstroke could pull that)The big question is how fast could he pull it!!!!!!!!!!!
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