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Old May 25, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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Rules?

I have been looking for the "rules" and cannot seem to find them. Anyone got a link? I had a link in my post that was deleted. It was a link to a snowmobile site. This site in no way poses any threat to the DTR.... Yet it was removed and called a>> AD Removed<< I have linked many people to this site from there. I think you guys are being just a tad paranoid IMHO.

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Old May 25, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...p?page=privacy

The rules are included in with the DTR Privacy Statement, about 2/3rds the way down on the Privacy Statement page. The link to the privacy statement is located at the bottom of nearly every page here at DTR.

As far as your link goes, I never saw it so I can't say if it was a good link or not, or if it fit in with the rules here.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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Thanxs for the response JRS. Here is a quote from the rules section


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Spam, flooding, advertisements, group buys, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also inappropriate on DieselTruckResource.Com."


It was none of the above, it is strictly a sled site, by sledders for sledders. I only posted it because i thought it might be imformative to some members here @ the DTR. I can't count how many members at our site run CTD's. BTW I am a moderator there and am familair with forum rules, as ours are almost identical. Should I remove my link at SW to here as I don't want to offend anyone..BTW I did PM admin months ago and never recieved an answer. Hence the reason I made this thread. This is a great site, sorry if I offended anyone.

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Old May 25, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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You posted a section of the rules, however if you had posted the beginning of the next paragraph, it would have been this;

"If you are not a paying advertiser on the DieselTruckResource.Com forum, you may not place advertisements in your signatures or posts for your products or website."

This means simply that "DTR reserves the right to advertise in signatures and forums for paid vendors only." Any other links would be removed as a violation of the site rules.

I don't have anything against your site that you were trying to advertise, but I can not in all fairness just pick and choose which website links to allow just because they do or don't appeal to me. I enforce the rule straight across the board so that everyone is treated equally the same.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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This kind of goofy stuff is the reason why I don't visit here very often, you guys (The Moderators) need to lighten up a touch to make this a more fun place to be. I'm sure you all don't want to hear that, or maybe you've heard it a bunch (I don't know?). The site RamDiesel had listed was in no way threat to the DTR and all the garbage about "Paying advertiser" blah, blah, blah is a joke. If the moderator likes it then it stays, if he disagrees or doesn't like it then it's gone. That makes for a poor environment IMO.

I watched some fella get bashed in a thread about not shipping something out on time and even saw a moderator jump into the argument and try to make it out like this fella had done something horrible. For a moderator that's pretty inappropriate IMHO. He should've simply stayed out of the argument or got rid of it all together.

Too much BS goes on here for me, see ya later. Just thought I should share my 2 cents worth with site since bothers me sometimes.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MadGoat
This kind of goofy stuff is the reason why I don't visit here very often, you guys (The Moderators) need to lighten up a touch to make this a more fun place to be. I'm sure you all don't want to hear that, or maybe you've heard it a bunch (I don't know?). The site RamDiesel had listed was in no way threat to the DTR and all the garbage about "Paying advertiser" blah, blah, blah is a joke. If the moderator likes it then it stays, if he disagrees or doesn't like it then it's gone. That makes for a poor environment IMO.

I watched some fella get bashed in a thread about not shipping something out on time and even saw a moderator jump into the argument and try to make it out like this fella had done something horrible. For a moderator that's pretty inappropriate IMHO. He should've simply stayed out of the argument or got rid of it all together.

Too much BS goes on here for me, see ya later. Just thought I should share my 2 cents worth with site since bothers me sometimes.

Looking at your signature it is pretty obvious what your motivation is here Your ad was removed as well.

This stuff is real simple boys, we sell advertising here in an attempt to keep the site free for our members. No way am I taking money from a vendor, then slapping him in the face by allowing somebody else to do it for free.

If you paid for the right to advertise here, I have no doubt your attitude would do a complete 180. Our rules are very simple, if they upset you then by all means you should leave.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lary Ellis (Top)
Looking at your signature it is pretty obvious what your motivation is here Your ad was removed as well.

This stuff is real simple boys, we sell advertising here in an attempt to keep the site free for our members. No way am I taking money from a vendor, then slapping him in the face by allowing somebody else to do it for free.

If you paid for the right to advertise here, I have no doubt your attitude would do a complete 180. Our rules are very simple, if they upset you then by all means you should leave.

You should re-check that again my friend, I don't have anything to advertise nor do I want to. I have a personal farm page with my pulling truck link on there that I think I tried to insert once (It's my dad's goat farm ), is that what you're talking about? If not, please do explain.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MadGoat
You should re-check that again my friend, I don't have anything to advertise nor do I want to. I have a personal farm page with my pulling truck link on there that I think I tried to insert once (It's my dad's goat farm ), is that what you're talking about? If not, please do explain.
You posted the link to a farm website that has advertising to sell animals, doesn't matter who owns it to me, it still violates the rules.

I have another business myself but you will find no reference to it here. The reason being we made the rule to not allow ads in signatures for anyone other than paid vendors, so the very first one removed was my own.

I can't be any more fair than that...don't you think?
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Old May 25, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Like I said, keep tightening the noose and eventually you 're gonna choke. Take the fun outta the website and people will go elsewhere. I guess that's the difference between "For Profit" & "Non-profit". I see where you're coming from, I just don't think it the "best" approach. That's just my opinion though, and it's not always worth that much .
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Old May 25, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MadGoat
Like I said, keep tightening the noose and eventually you 're gonna choke. Take the fun outta the website and people will go elsewhere. I guess that's the difference between "For Profit" & "Non-profit". I see where you're coming from, I just don't think it the "best" approach. That's just my opinion though, and it's not always worth that much .
Thanks for the post. I appreciate it. So far, so good. We're still the fastest growing Cummins diesel site out there. So that argument isn't valid at this point.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MadGoat
Take the fun outta the website and people will go elsewhere.
There have been a few who did.
Most of them were ones that didn't quite understand the rules either.

There is a difference between fun and "fun",
fun for some is offensive or vulgar to others, so we (mods) have the wonderfully enjoyable job of finding the happy medium.
Even then, what one moderator finds offensive might not be to the next one, we come from various walks of life.

I know this thread is about advertising, and what is and isn't considered an ad,
that determination is up to Jack and Lary, and what they say goes, plain and simple.

If you don't like the way the site is run, feel free to go elsewhere till you find something you don't like about that site,
then create your own, like Jack did, then you can make the rules.


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Old May 25, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MadGoat
(The Moderators) need to lighten up a touch to make this a more fun place to be.
I'M havin' fun. Beyond that, what else matters?



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Old May 25, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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This will be my final post on this subject, no sense in beating a dead horse. I need to clarify a couple of issues.
The first being the site I linked to is in no way my site. I am not admin there, only a moderator. The site is a FREE information resource, that is family orientated. It is in no way shape or form an advertisement or should be construed as one. We have a supporting member program that is strictly voluntary to help with server costs as I am sure you can relate too. Members miss out on nothing by not paying. Alot of our snowmobiling members (19,644 registered>top 40,000 sites in Alexa ratings) drive Ram diesel trucks. The only reason it was posted was too share a good information resource>>DTR.

I guess what this sums up too is that basically the rule is do not put a link to anything or anywhere. The easiest way for you as admin to solve this problem is too take away off site linking ability to all but paid members. Another option is too start a reciprocal link program. I will remove the link to the DTR from the site.

RD >> over and out
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Old May 25, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RamDiesel

I guess what this sums up too is that basically the rule is do not put a link to anything or anywhere.
No actually the rule is that those individuals who pay for the right to do so, may post links to they're sites in signatures.

Originally Posted by RamDiesel
The easiest way for you as admin to solve this problem is too take away off site linking ability to all but paid members.

RD >> over and out
I think an even simpler way is for the members to actually follow the rules they agree to when registering here That stops any issue before it even comes up.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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I posted a link about a week ago of a DODGE yanking around a ford. It was deleted due to questionable content on that paticular site. I looked at it a few times and could not understand what the problem was. Even ADMIN. said the video alone was fine and I said oh well, and forgot about it. But after reading this post and going back and looking at other things that were on there, I understand what the problem was. There was crap that I would not my kid to see. No nothing vulgar or nudity. But stupid little unsupervised brats doing really stupid things. Kids have bad enough influences without adding to it. There are rules to follow and they are there for a reason. Whether it be what I have talked about or commercial they have their reasons. If you feel the need start your own site.
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