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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Over picky about wording in a post.

A member asked a question with a thread about Amsoil and how their pricing system works, not how much a product costs and where he can get it.

I mentioned that I was a dealer and then explained how Amsoil's pricing system worked.

An administrator completely deleted my post content all together. I found this extremely silly as I in no way tried to use my post as a way to make a sale. Only to state that I knew what I was talking about since I was a dealer.

I then re edited the post and put it back! It was then shortly cut back today, again, this is silly.

I am a moderator for a message forum site myself (www.towrig.com) and know how advertising works and what is ok to be posted by a non vender and what isn't.

I think you guys are far too picky.

Here is the thread in question.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=103416
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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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As a moderator I am surprised that you choose to continue to post in a manner that is not acceptable to THIS sites rules. When you first joined here I immediately had to remove an ad from your signature. At that time I sent you a copy of the rules you agreed to and asked you to make yourself aware of them.

I am glad you understand what the rules are on the site you moderate, but if you wish to continue to post on this site, I again suggest you make your self aware of the rules HERE.

Reading that post you made regarding Amsoil products, I can see several other members talking about Amsoils pricing policy's, yet you are the ONLY one who feels necessary to point out you are a dealer to someone looking for a deal.

You can make your point without stating you are a dealer, unless of course your intent from the beginning was to ADVERTISE that fact, and that would also explain why having your post edited upset you so.

Replacing something that has been removed by a Moderator here, is a real quick way to get the boot from the site. Best if you have a question to PM me or a Mod and we can discuss the issue and if warrented the post will be restored.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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I have no interest in selling anything to anyone over the internet. I was simply mad about the post edit because I thought the moderator that did the edit was splitting hairs over wording that was questionable at best.

I simply mentioned that I was a dealer so that the original poster asking the question would automatically know that I am familiar with the Amsoil pricing system and knows I know what I am talking about.


If someone posted up that 2007 Rams were going to come from the factory with pink rims, wouldn't you give him more credit if he mentioned he works for Dodge as an engineer and designer in the pickup department?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RJF
I have no interest in selling anything to anyone over the internet.
Now we all know that statement isn't true, if you had no interest in selling anything over the Internet, you would not have placed an ad in your signature or in the forums.

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I was simply mad about the post edit because I thought the moderator that did the edit was splitting hairs over wording that was questionable at best.
It would not be questionable to you if you would simply read the rules as I have asked you to now multiple times. If you are not a paid advertiser here, you will not be allowed to discuss anything you sell here.

People pay for the right to do that here, it would not be fair to them for me to allow you to do it for free.

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If someone posted up that 2007 Rams were going to come from the factory with pink rims, wouldn't you give him more credit if he mentioned he works for Dodge as an engineer and designer in the pickup department?
If you can not see the difference between an Engineer or Designer giving us info about an upcoming release, or a Dealer discussing prices of the product he sells, then unfortunately we will most likely be visiting this issue again in the future.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lary Ellis (Top)
Now we all know that statement isn't true, if you had no interest in selling anything over the Internet, you would not have placed an ad in your signature or in the forums.
I have never placed an add on DTR, never. Mentioning who I am is not an add.



It would not be questionable to you if you would simply read the rules as I have asked you to now multiple times. If you are not a paid advertiser here, you will not be allowed to discuss anything you sell here.
Agreed, only paying members should be able to display products that they sell and try to use the site for thei financial benifet.


If you can not see the difference between an Engineer or Designer giving us info about an upcoming release, or a Dealer discussing prices of the product he sells, then unfortunately we will most likely be visiting this issue again in the future.
Fine, let me try this again. If someone asked exactly what type of aluminum the rims are made out of on new Dodge Rams, and a person answered it and mentioned that he worked for Dodge, you would take his info more seriously. Obviously, that person isn't trying to sell a set of rims, they are trying to use their knowledge to help answer a question.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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When you say dealer it immeadiately raises a red flag. I'm not saying your right or wrong thats the chiefs job. If I was you I would let well enough alone.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RJF
I have never placed an add on DTR, never. Mentioning who I am is not an add.
This is why we are having a problem, you are not aware of what constitutes advertising. Placing your business name in your signature is an ad. Making a post discussing products you sell in an attempt to make a sale, is an ad. You have done both of these prior to this issue.



Originally Posted by RJF
Agreed, only paying members should be able to display products that they sell and try to use the site for thei financial benifet.
Then why are we going over this stuff, time and again? Quit advertising and we don't have a problem.




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Fine, let me try this again. If someone asked exactly what type of aluminum the rims are made out of on new Dodge Rams, and a person answered it and mentioned that he worked for Dodge, you would take his info more seriously. Obviously, that person isn't trying to sell a set of rims, they are trying to use their knowledge to help answer a question.
You still do not get it If that same person were discussing the prices of those rims and pointing out he sold them, he would be advertising just as you were.

Just quit advertising in the forums, that way your posts won't get edited.

I don't know how I can possibly make it any more plain than that. I am not going to continue arguing this point with you here as it is pointless. If you wish to discuss it further in PM, feel free to do so.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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if folks just cant abide by the rules of a FREE site, then those folks should take themselves somewhere else. I would hate to lose a member, but we all agree to follow the rules, whether we agree to them or not.

this is the same problem we deal with time and again with the catalytic convertor removal posts.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lary Ellis (Top)
Making a post discussing products you sell in an attempt to make a sale, is an ad.
You figure that since I answered a question about how pricing WORKS, that I MUST trying to just sell something to someone. He never asked for a price, I never gave him a price, and never was their talk of business between the two of us in one bit. You just assume that I am out to make a buck off your member and that MUST be why I would even bother with the thread.

I am also seeing that this is going no where, but didn't figure it would anyway. Obviously, nothing is going to change over one member.

I guess I can never mention anything about my own vehicle, or products that I have used for it, in any of my posts either, since I have used it for higher more than once. Through my uncles buddy that has a cousin, that is married to a fellow, that once worked at a....and somehow could come back to me trying to sell goods transportation....
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Old May 21, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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You win Lary Ellis. We are arguing over something that does not matter anymore. We completely disagree on the way things are ran, but it's your site and I respect that, even though we disagree.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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RJF,

Play by the rules that you signed up for.

Lary is a super guy, sorry Lary I let the secret out, and if you knew that we would not be having this discussion. So don't pick on him unless you must "poke the cat"!!

Rick (not even brown nosing on your best day, Lary, )
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Old May 22, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RJF
You win Lary Ellis. We are arguing over something that does not matter anymore. We completely disagree on the way things are ran, but it's your site and I respect that, even though we disagree.
It didn't matter in the first place. You can disagree all day long but it makes no difference. You can argue all day long but it doesn't matter. The rules are the rules and you can either follow them or leave.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Thorpe
or leave.
intriguing idea
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Old May 22, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RJF
intriguing idea
I would be happy to help you make that decision
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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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For some reason a handfull of people think that the rules don't apply to them. If you don't like it either leave or grin and bear it. Giving advice is good, but selling something or plugging yourself is not(unless you pay). If you were trying to establish credibility, say you used to be a dealer or something else. Your argument is valid except for the fact that you don't make the rules, you just have to follow them.
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