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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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What do you think???

I am new to the whole diesel performance scene. I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel, I will be using this as a daily driver for the next 6 mos. and then it will pull the Camaro back and forth to the track. I would like to make some more power with it. I would love to go out to the 1320' and throw down a 13 sec. pass, and still tow the car home with no worries. I will be taking this car on 1200+ mile road trips so the truck needs to stay reliable. I will list what I have been looking at doing, and would like ya'lls opinion on what products you liked.

My goal is to throw down 450+ RWHP and 850+ RWTQ in Race mode. I would like to have about 100 more RWHP then stock all the time to pull the trailer with, I think I will do this by going with an H2o/Alky Injection Kit. So I think I will need an adjustable tuner/box. I have been looking at getting a whole set-up from Diesel Dynamics (my buddy is a part owner) He says I need Injectors, tuner/module, clutch, exhaust, turbo upgrade and a CAI to reach those goals. I built my own CAI with 4'' PVC tubing and a K&N cone style filter, so I won't need that. What do you guys think??? Thanks for the help/comments.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Welcome

You'll get good advice from D.D. Nice to have them in your backyard.

You need to either put yourself in their hands...or do your own homework. That means reading everything you have time for on this site. You will be surprised what you pick up...just reading all the posts that apply to adding HP...which is at least 1/2 of them.

You won't need H2O/Meth Injection to get to 450 hp. You can do that easily with injectors, bigger turbo and a box. You'll need better air intake and a 4" exhaust as well. And before you do anything...install gauges.

Good luck!

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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F'd 3X,

Totally off the subject, but what does your user name mean? If it's what I suspect you had probably not come right out and say it.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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LMAO, everyone thinks that but it actually means F-Bodied 3 times, I had 3 Camaro's up until about a month ago when I got the Dodge, it has been my user name for a while.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Re: Welcome

Originally posted by rjohnson
You'll get good advice from D.D. Nice to have them in your backyard.

You need to either put yourself in their hands...or do your own homework. That means reading everything you have time for on this site. You will be surprised what you pick up...just reading all the posts that apply to adding HP...which is at least 1/2 of them.

You won't need H2O/Meth Injection to get to 450 hp. You can do that easily with injectors, bigger turbo and a box. You'll need better air intake and a 4" exhaust as well. And before you do anything...install gauges.

Good luck!

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The purpose of the H2o/Alky Injection is to lower combustion temps on steep grades or hauling a heavy trailer and of course the 1320'. I built my own CAi, so now I am trying to figure out the rest. Thanks for the inputs though. My problem is that all the acronyms are jiberish to me, still trying to figure them out.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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My problem is that all the acronyms are jiberish to me, still trying to figure them out.
Tell me about it. THis sight is full of info and you have to read constant to keep up but it would be nice if they would dumb it down abit sometimes.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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i do believe that my set up is pushing close to 450 horse. Maybe a few under that. I really dont know on the torque. 900 maybe?? But I really like it. i can turn the chip off when im pullin and have it on when im playin. i need a bigger turbo to burn all that black smoke and i wouldnt mind water meth injection to lower the egts. More of the water than the meth. Id prolly have to do head work if i did that though.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Re: What do you think???

Originally posted by F'd 3X
I am new to the whole diesel performance scene. I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel, I will be using this as a daily driver for the next 6 mos. and then it will pull the Camaro back and forth to the track. I would like to make some more power with it. I would love to go out to the 1320' and throw down a 13 sec. pass, and still tow the car home with no worries. I will be taking this car on 1200+ mile road trips so the truck needs to stay reliable. I will list what I have been looking at doing, and would like ya'lls opinion on what products you liked.

My goal is to throw down 450+ RWHP and 850+ RWTQ in Race mode. I would like to have about 100 more RWHP then stock all the time to pull the trailer with, I think I will do this by going with an H2o/Alky Injection Kit. So I think I will need an adjustable tuner/box. I have been looking at getting a whole set-up from Diesel Dynamics (my buddy is a part owner) He says I need Injectors, tuner/module, clutch, exhaust, turbo upgrade and a CAI to reach those goals. I built my own CAI with 4'' PVC tubing and a K&N cone style filter, so I won't need that. What do you guys think??? Thanks for the help/comments.
DD is good.. One of the pioneers in the diesel game.

Here's MY take:

It will likely take more than 450rwhp to get a 6-speed into the 13s, depending on driving skill.

The combination I would recommend is 150 hp injectors (Don M's are *my* favorite), a Drag Comp, a South Bend Con FE clutch, and a turbo from Industrial Injection (Try the Phat Shaft 62).


The above is a combo that is proven to deliver 500rwhp and is totally streetable with manual trans.

jmo
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Re: Re: What do you think???

Originally posted by HOHN
DD is good.. One of the pioneers in the diesel game.

Here's MY take:

It will likely take more than 450rwhp to get a 6-speed into the 13s, depending on driving skill.

The combination I would recommend is 150 hp injectors (Don M's are *my* favorite), a Drag Comp, a South Bend Con FE clutch, and a turbo from Industrial Injection (Try the Phat Shaft 62).


The above is a combo that is proven to deliver 500rwhp and is totally streetable with manual trans.

jmo
I'm pretty sure I got the driving skills covered thanks though. I like your idea, but can I still tow with it??? Thanks again.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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Re: Re: Welcome

Originally posted by F'd 3X
My problem is that all the acronyms are jiberish to me, still trying to figure them out.
Just for you...and CASGrey1. All you have to do is ask!!
http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/specs/glossary.htm

Also, a similar list, under "Tech Facts" in the header...this web site.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...n&onlynewfaq=1

RJ
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Welcome

Originally posted by rjohnson
Just for you...and CASGrey1. All you have to do is ask!!
http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/specs/glossary.htm

Also, a similar list, under "Tech Facts" in the header...this web site.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...n&onlynewfaq=1

RJ
Thanks, I understand about 90% of those as I am a Mechanic for the Air Force. My problem lies mainly in peoples sigs, and list of mods i.e. 89% DTT, EZ stacked on TST PM3, Mach 4's, KSB-1 w/ External WG, I read these things on hear all the time and have no idea what they mean. I'm pretty sure the EZ is talking about the Edge Product, but I have no clue what stcked on TST PM3 means?????
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Good Point. Maybe the list should be updated.

Edge EZ box (for timing) hooked up..in line... with a TST (brand) Power Module 3 (heavy fueling Box)...... http://www.tstproducts.com/

Mach 4 = F-1 150 hp Injectors...http://www.f1diesel.com/

DTT = Auto Tranny Rebuilder... http://www.dieseltrans.com/

KSB-1 = Brand of turbo... see http://www.piersdiesel.com/Products.htm

WG = External Wastegate

I had forgotten how comfusing it can be in the beginning....but it does come quickly!

RJ
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by rjohnson
Good Point. Maybe the list should be updated.

Edge EZ box (for timing) hooked up..in line... with a TST (brand) Power Module 3 (heavy fueling Box)...... http://www.tstproducts.com/

Mach 4 = F-1 150 hp Injectors...http://www.f1diesel.com/

DTT = Auto Tranny Rebuilder... http://www.dieseltrans.com/

KSB-1 = Brand of turbo... see http://www.piersdiesel.com/Products.htm

WG = External Wastegate

I had forgotten how comfusing it can be in the beginning....but it does come quickly!

RJ
TYVM that is exactly what I have been looking for. I found the injectors and think I will go with Mach 4's. I think my manual tranny will be fine, just need a clutch, maybe southbend?? I will have to look into the TST, and I am nervous about the turdbo, don't want to loose my warranty. Thanks for all your input though.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Dont want to lose your warranty You better not touch it then. You could always put it back to stock that would a pain though dont you think.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by AAmeeting
Dont want to lose your warranty You better not touch it then. You could always put it back to stock that would a pain though dont you think.
Actually federal law states that "Bolt On Items" don't void warranty. As long as you don't mess with internal pieces you are fine. However changing to a different turbo could be seen as changing the induction system. Thanks for the usefull comments though.
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