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Old May 7, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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I'm interested in a water meth kit for my truck, i hear it will lower my egt's as well as give me some more jam, I'm looking for pro's a con's. The kit looks like something a guy could build him self

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Old May 7, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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I've used the Snow's stage 2 and 3 for the last 3 1/2 years and was a tester for the stage 2. The stage 3 has no cons. Works exactly as advertised. The stage 2 is very close. No other modification will decrease egts, save a turbo, like water injection does. None.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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How fast do you burn thru the fluid? I was thinking about this too, but after talking to the local shop and hearing that they burn up a gallon in about 30 sec.'s I decided that it wasn't practical....
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Old May 8, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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How fast do you burn thru the fluid? I was thinking about this too, but after talking to the local shop and hearing that they burn up a gallon in about 30 sec.'s I decided that it wasn't practical....
put it on my buddies 03 and man, it really works great. but yes, you do burn through alot of it quickly. it all depends on how you set it up, orfice size, when it kicks on, ect...... you can set it up for towing or set it up for racing. either way i would recomend it. works great.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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works great for me to.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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works great for me to.
how do you like the stage three. my buddy was going to get that one but he thought that big box would look tacky mounted in the cab so we just went with the stage 2. is it that bad and how does it look in the cab. do you have any pics.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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I like it a lot, but honestly if it wasn't on the truck when I bought it I wouldn't bother getting the stage three, at least not for my application even when towing heavy in valet mode it doesn't even kick in, I've got plenty of air to keep it cool, but if you have problems with egt's it would be a great system for towing
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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I suppose the worst problem with the stage 3 is where to mount the box. Very difficult to make a professional installation.

In towing situations it is a quantum leap in performance over the stage 2 system because of the smoothness of delivery.

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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bart Timothy
I suppose the worst problem with the stage 3 is where to mount the box. Very difficult to make a professional installation.

In towing situations it is a quantum leap in performance over the stage 2 system because of the smoothness of delivery.

i 100% agree. thats the only reason we went with the stage 2 cause it mounts under the hood. i also have to agree that the stage 3 has to be a way better setup for towing. just wish the box was a little more ADVANCED so to say. really like how you put it in. never thought of that idea
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chriss
....after talking to the local shop and hearing that they burn up a gallon in about 30 sec.'s I decided that it wasn't practical....
A gallon in 30 sec sounds like a racing application. I use the washer fluid bottle and admittedly, it's not big enough for long, mountainous, heavy towing situations, it handles my needs 95% of the time.... and that's with two 625? nozzles (the big ones).
At the drag strip, I get 6 passes out of a gallon, or about 60 sec.

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Old May 9, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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I read a post by "loch" on building up a water/meth injection system, has anyone followed his instructions and how well does it work? Is there a benifit from buying one, or can I build one that will work as good? My only concern would be the quality of the spray nozzle....
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Old May 9, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chriss
I read a post by "loch" on building up a water/meth injection system, has anyone followed his instructions and how well does it work? Is there a benifit from buying one, or can I build one that will work as good? My only concern would be the quality of the spray nozzle....
unless you can designe a nozzle like you said that will spay well, i would much rather buy one cause you know it works, its been tested, and it comes with everything you need. plus all the parts are quality made.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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I'm interested in a water meth kit for my truck,..... I'm looking for pro's a con's. Jack
Jack,
The H20/Meth Kit will give more "JAM". 500 HP trucks pick up 40-60 HP. (That's with 50% Racing Meth fuel...not just washer fluid.)
I love the system...used it mainly for EGT control....got 150-200* lower in mountains and towing.
The only con I have encountered is at WOT, for example Drag Racing. The temps may climb a little slower but they do not, in my expirience, level off lower. IF I back off the throttle, like on the hwy, they will drop down....AND stay down. But for some reason they will not peak at a lower temp while still holding the peddle on the floor? May just be my truck??

The only other cons...not biggies, are
1)after using, you must remember to run your truck for a while to eliminate any water vapor still in the cylinders. I used 5 min as overkill, but suspect 1-2 min is enough!
2) Takes patience and some testing time to set it right... for your usage. Not just a plug & play mod.

The pros far outweigh the cons, IMO. Very helpful system for anyone with EGT problems, and fun to have.

RJ-Stage 2 Snow's Kit
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Jack,
The H20/Meth Kit will give more "JAM". 500 HP trucks pick up 40-60 HP. (That's with 50% Racing Meth fuel...not just washer fluid.)
I love the system...used it mainly for EGT control....got 150-200* lower in mountains and towing.
The only con I have encountered is at WOT, for example Drag Racing. The temps may climb a little slower but they do not, in my expirience, level off lower. IF I back off the throttle, like on the hwy, they will drop down....AND stay down. But for some reason they will not peak at a lower temp while still holding the peddle on the floor? May just be my truck??

The only other cons...not biggies, are 1)after using, you must remember to run your truck for a while to eliminate any water vapor still in the cylinders. I used 5 min as overkill, but suspect 1-2 min is enough! 2) Takes patience and some testing time to set it right... for your usage. Not just a plug & play mod.

The pros far outweigh the cons, IMO. Very helpful system for anyone with EGT problems, and fun to have.

RJ-Stage 2 Snow's Kit
yes you are totally correct about the egts at WOT. when drag racing, egts may still get high but will take longer to get there. but when towing they will stay down the entire time. as far as having to idle, i was always told to just drive like a mile with the system off and that will clear it. if you idle, there is no boost going to the intake side to really clear it out. have to drive with a load on the motor to get boost to clean up things. just my 2 cents.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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H20 Meth

I just installed a pdr hx 30 with 14 cm, #10 plate 3 k afc spring & a full 4"
I have the plate foward .20" If i do full blast it heats up quick on the pyro but backs down on the temp right away when I let off, i'm worried when I put the camper and the boat on what's going to happen, That's why i'm looking at the water meth system. By the sound of it I should spend the money and by the kit.

Thanks for the info guy's....Jack
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