Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only Talk about Dodge/Cummins aftermarket products for second generation trucks here. Can include high-performance mods, or general accessories.

turbo air guides?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:09 PM
  #1  
dezrtdzl's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
turbo air guides?

Hey I just clicked on the link for black cloud diesel and I was reading about turbo air guides, wondering if they really work or if that is something like that tornado thing? It sounds good in philosophy (its supposed to make the turbo spool faster and increase mileage/power), anybody know if it really works?

I have a 2002 2500, stock as you can get but looking to upgrade.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 03:51 PM
  #2  
Ph4tty's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,465
Likes: 0
From: fredericksburg, virginia
Its supposed to quieten turbo noise. How about instead of that remove the silencer ring for more noise instead. Take off the intake hose from the turbo and use a flathead screwdriver to pry the ring out on the turbo inlet. It'll
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:50 PM
  #3  
dezrtdzl's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
does that do anything for performance? I would like to hear the turbo a little more.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:52 PM
  #4  
Totallyrad's Avatar
Administrator / Free Time Specialist
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,707
Likes: 16
From: Birmingham, Alabama
The tag does help the truck pull a little better when towing. Other than that, I can't really tell any difference.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 10:07 PM
  #5  
JPR Ram's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,820
Likes: 2
From: My head lays down in Murrieta, but the day light hours are spent in San Diego, Ca.
Originally Posted by Totallyrad
The tag does help the truck pull a little better when towing. Other than that, I can't really tell any difference.
Really? I do honestly think I get an extra pound out of the turbo. Maybe it's just my imagination, maybe not. But it does seem like it does.......
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:08 PM
  #6  
WUnderwood's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 0
From: TEXAS
I ordered one because the turbo was driving me nuts. I think it does a LITTLE performance wise, and keeps the whine of the turbo to a dull roar, my personal opinion
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 10:27 PM
  #7  
Big Blue24's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,051
Likes: 2
From: Las Vegas, NV
So the tag does a LITTLE performance wise... just like a banks or swanker intake tube..... Save your money for more fuel or a bigger turbo!!!
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:44 AM
  #8  
Ph4tty's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,465
Likes: 0
From: fredericksburg, virginia
Originally Posted by dezrtdzl
does that do anything for performance? I would like to hear the turbo a little more.
Nope, but removing the silencer ring does sounds cool
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:52 AM
  #9  
Tiger Rag's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,348
Likes: 0
From: W-S, NC
Contact DTR member rjohnson. He's got a spreadsheet on his tests with the TAG. He noticed lower egt's and less noise. Can't remember what else. His spreadsheets show some decent results.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 08:11 AM
  #10  
Totallyrad's Avatar
Administrator / Free Time Specialist
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,707
Likes: 16
From: Birmingham, Alabama
One thing I'm puzzled by, when I ran the tag I had a surge on hard acceleration. In order to use the tag in the stock intake tube you have to remove the plastic fins in the tube. If I remember correctly, that bend is slightly more than 90*. I'm thinking the air is stalling slightly, causing the surge, hence the reason for the fins in the stock tube. I purchased an AFE torque tube to smooth out the bends and because it is supposed to allow you to run the tag, it won't. I'm working on modifying the AFE to make it work with the tag. I think that will eliminate the surge.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 08:23 AM
  #11  
RustyJC's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,749
Likes: 4
From: Cypress, TX
I've been running the TAG 1 for years and am satisfied with its performance. The 2nd generation trucks didn't have turning vanes in the inlet duct between the air cleaner and turbocharger, and I was experiencing turbo compressor instability when towing up grades in 6th gear around 2200-2300 RPM at or near WOT. In addition, with the BHAF, the constant turbo whistle and whine were drawing complaints from the wife on long trips towing the 5th wheel. The TAG took care of both issues. If you're thinking it's voodoo science, do a Google search on "honeycomb flow straightener" to see where the technology comes from.

If you're looking for mega-horsepower gains, your money is better spent elsewhere. If you understand what the TAG can do and use it to target specific issues, it's a worthwhile addition.

Rusty
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 08:32 AM
  #12  
Totallyrad's Avatar
Administrator / Free Time Specialist
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,707
Likes: 16
From: Birmingham, Alabama
Rusty, I agree and it will definitely quiet down the turbo.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 10:21 AM
  #13  
eichhoma's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Ph4tty
Its supposed to quieten turbo noise. How about instead of that remove the silencer ring for more noise instead. Take off the intake hose from the turbo and use a flathead screwdriver to pry the ring out on the turbo inlet. It'll
Dont mean to hijack but I have a question on this.... will doing that cause any other issues; trouble codes or anything? I am considering doing that and hear that all does it just make the turbo whistle a little more, but want to make sure there is nothing else I should be concerned about in doing that.
When you pull the intake hose off the front of the turbo, where exactly is it and do you just pry something out?
Thanks!
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 11:28 PM
  #14  
Ph4tty's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,465
Likes: 0
From: fredericksburg, virginia
Nothing to be concerned about. Just pull the hose off the turbo and look inside and there's a ring. Carefully pry it out. Its that easy.

Here's a link http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/FAQ/turbo_faq.htm
WithAnd without
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2007 | 08:22 AM
  #15  
eichhoma's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Ph4tty
Nothing to be concerned about. Just pull the hose off the turbo and look inside and there's a ring. Carefully pry it out. Its that easy.

Here's a link http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/FAQ/turbo_faq.htm
WithAnd without

Cool! thanks for the pics... I think I will do that this weekend and see how it sounds!
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:34 AM.