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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Towing with Mapp unplugged??

i gotta tow a Jeep tomorrow and want if i shoud plug the Map back in?
what does everyone else do?
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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leave 'er unplugged, its to much trouble to plug it in, just to turn around and unplug it when you get back.

It wont hurt anything, just be sensible about where you really get into it.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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where is the plug located and is it that much of an improvement? thanks.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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It will only work when you unplug your map sensor if you have a Edge Comp or an Edge Juice...It will also not work on 03 and up
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Has anyone ever proved that unpluggin the map will hurt your truck or decrease fuel mileage under normal drivin (i.e. no hotroddin).

I've heard some people say that it will wash the cylinder walls of oil but thats about all the bad stuff I've heard.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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I've heard some people say that it will wash the cylinder walls of oil but thats about all the bad stuff I've heard.

I could see that happening if you were just nailing it at every light and blowing soot for all its worth. But for the occasional tailgator, no problem
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Ran around with it unplugged for 6 months with no issues. Only reason it's plugged back in is because I bought a TST.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Well towed up to the Jeep show plugged in and back with it unplugged couldn't really tell a difference. so i guess it doesn't matter.
thanks for the replys
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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I've heard some people say that it will wash the cylinder walls of oil but thats about all the bad stuff I've heard.
If you plan on running it unplugged, be prepared for less power, more smoke, and changing your oil often to help prevent damage to your shortblock.

With the MAP unplugged, your computer also does not know how to adjust timing/fuel for the engine per how much boost there is.

Too much fuel does not allow proper combustion reducing power. Not only will it wash the cylinder walls and allow the rings to drag, but it will get in the oil, reducing its lubrication and sooner than later start taking out bearings.

It is not worth the extra wear on the engine just to see more black soot.

Id use a switch on it if you really must over fuel the engine and take its knowledge of what the heck is going on under the hood.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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If you plan on running it unplugged, be prepared for less power, more smoke, and changing your oil often to help prevent damage to your shortblock.

With the MAP unplugged, your computer also does not know how to adjust timing/fuel for the engine per how much boost there is.

Too much fuel does not allow proper combustion reducing power. Not only will it wash the cylinder walls and allow the rings to drag, but it will get in the oil, reducing its lubrication and sooner than later start taking out bearings.

It is not worth the extra wear on the engine just to see more black soot.

Id use a switch on it if you really must over fuel the engine and take its knowledge of what the heck is going on under the hood.
Um. I'm gonna have to disagree. Most everyone that runs with their map unplugged with a Comp has reported no difference and some have reported an INCREASE in power. I noticed a nice increase in the bottom end of my truck with it unplugged. All it does is that instead of letting the comp gradually add in fuel, it throws full fuel at it right off of idle. That's it. My truck and a ton of other people's trucks run perfectly fine with no loss of power, no increased soot in their oil, nothing. Is it a little harder on the engine? Probably. But since when is adding more power and more fuel not hard on the engine.

Unplug the map sensor and go and have fun. Just be light on the throttle until you get some boost built and you'll be perfectly fine.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Ya i love the off the line power it gives me, now i can't stand not having that power. Are there other ways to get the off the line power without unplugging?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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i had mine unplugged for awhile now but plugged it back in after the whiplash i had gotten from it too much bottom end for me
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Um. I'm gonna have to disagree. Most everyone that runs with their map unplugged with a Comp
That detail was left out, becaues the comp tricks the computer w/ map sensor settings anyways.

I was referring to those that just unplug the map w/out performance boxes.

The comp is modifying timing in place of the map sensor. If there was no performance box, the computer would never change timing.

Guess i should abeen a little more clearer.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Well the only reason to unplug the MAP sensor is if you have a comp. Otherwise by all means leave it plugged in. The original poster has a comp and was asking about whether or not he should leave it unplugged and that's what I was referring to.

I noticed a very nice increase in the bottom end with my comp unplugged.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
Well the only reason to unplug the MAP sensor is if you have a comp. Otherwise by all means leave it plugged in. The original poster has a comp and was asking about whether or not he should leave it unplugged and that's what I was referring to.

I noticed a very nice increase in the bottom end with my comp unplugged.
I just ate a krispy kreme before posting, was sugar highed and jumped to an answer before reading. I blame it on the donut.
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