In my never ending quest for that elusive 500hp I'm debating stacking an EZ with my setup. I've got a TST COMP, Smarty, 155hp injectors, water/meth, and a ps62/12. After researching and dynoing and playing I've come to the conclusion that the smarty isn't doing enough timing and I think I'd benefit from the extra timing that the EZ would give me. What do yall think?

 

There is only one way to find out Tyler!! It actually sounds like that might work.

 

If ya want more timing then put it on sw1 =P

What are you looking for? A bigger dyno #, better manners, faster et?
Marco's always said that the catcher software isn't for power, but it sure would be nice to have a race sw

 

More power and a better top end. My truck dies on the top end and I believe it's from the lack of timing. The manners of the truck now are fine. I think I might actually dyno on fuel saver to see if the timing of that does anything. The only thing I worry about is that I'm not actually gaining the power from the smarty that I would on the other levels.

 

IIRC marco said they all make 60hp, its just how fast they get there.
i run SW#1 alot and i think it pulls the same on top as higher SW's.

 

Interesting.

 

I've run the fuel saver program and like it, never tried it at the track. Hopefully, I'll be able to report some new positive results with regards to the Smarty.

 

Ever think it might be valve float? Or a choking 12cm charger?

What level are you running the TST on? Does it make a difference in power when you change it, or just smoke more?

Without knowing exactly the Smarty's timing curves it's hard to tell...but maybe it does roll back the timing at higher RPM levels. The EZ wouldn't, at least I wouldn't think so!

The fuel saver program is supposed to be pretty aggressive timing, so that might be worth trying like Mike D says!

Just trying to help you out with ideas Tyler!
Chris

 

is the Edge for pressure only, like on the 3rd gens? I dont know much about the 2nd gens

 

The 2nd Gens can't do anything with regards to pressure. Only timing and fuel.

 

Is there any evidence that the EZ at WOT has more timing than the Smarty?

Running the Smarty on Fuel Saver with the TSTcomp on #9 sounds like a push me-pull you! JMO.

RJ

 

Chris I'm sure it has a lot to do with the 12 housing. The idea of going to a 66 has crossed my mind a time or two. I just know that I can get 500 out of this thing. Levels 5-9 make no difference. Just more smoke. I actually lost power on #9.

Mike D, I'm very curious to your results.

Rowland, I couldn't tell you if the EZ does more timing on the top end than the smarty. I figure I can try the EZ and if I like it cool and if not then I'll sell it.

Will, your giving the VP more credit than it's due. Pressure. HA. I wish.

 

Blue, I can't wait till Saturday.

 

I don't think you will even have to hit the dyno to tell. Stack the EZ and make a WOT run. If the EGT's and boost go down, then it's probably to much timing. Too much timing can also be felt as a "surge" which generally happens at about 20-30 lbs of boost, and about 1900 rpm's.

My guess would be that if you are running large injectors, a smarty, water/meth, and an EZ you will have to much timing. Too much timing and water/meth can do bad things...

I do think you are onto something though. I think there are more gains to be made with changes of timing then most people think. Typically we think of timing backwards. On an internal combustion engine, in most cases we want the flame to go OUT between 7 and 13 degrees after TDC. We need to start the fire, soon enough so that the fire will go out then. Besides changing when the fuel is actually injected, changing how fast the combustion process completes will in effect change the timing.

Paul

 

Paul I'm wondering if running all of the stuff I've got would increase timing to much as well. I know there's more left in the VP in ways of timing and I think that with these pumps timing is the key to making power. That's why I think the drag comp tends to run better than a tst/smarty stack because the drag comp does more timing across the board than the tst/smarty.