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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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a question for those with raptor fuel pumps..

hey guys my VP44 left me the other day so i figured since im putting on the vp44 mite as well get a raptor i got all the parts in today and for the raptor install is it necesary to drop the tank to hook up the raptor... i had to drop a tank on a chebby 1500 so i have bad memories of dropping tanks(it was 1/4 full of fuel) thanks for all the help and any other tricks on the install of the raptor and vp44 is appreciated like do's and donts thanks again
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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I thought i read that you no longer had to drop the tank with the raptor fuel pumps because they have a internal bypass and only draw what fuel is neccesary. Ive been doing a lot of reading on them the last week because i am very interested in installing one also. Which one did you get the 100 or 150.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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It Depends On The Pump If You Got The 100 You Can Reach Up In Between The Bed And The Tank And Disconect The Feed Line. If You Have The 150 You Will Have To Drop The Tank So You Can Install The Draw Straw. The Mounting Plate I Didnt Like So Came Up With Another Idea (just Didnt Seem Like Alot Of Room Between Cab And Frame), But It Was Still An Easy Installation
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Im curious why you cant cut the metal fuel line on the frame and slide the fuel line over it and then connect to the pump.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RAM2940
Im curious why you cant cut the metal fuel line on the frame and slide the fuel line over it and then connect to the pump.
i dont see why not, just make sure you flush the lines clean first. the only thing i can think of the the rubber hose is bigger than the metal on the frame rail
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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the new fuel line is 1/2in. and the stock line is 3/8in. the rp100 is really easy to install because all you have to do is unclip the factory feed line and fold it out of the way and hook up the new line with the quick disconnect fitting. i left the factory fuel line under the truck still in place. the rp150 u could probably do the same but you would have to get a fitting because it comes with a draw straw. i talked to pureflow and they said you could hook up the 150 like the 100 but they are still worried about the 150 sucking the collection basket dry
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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I have stock truck except for a Edge Juice W/ Attitude. I have been looking at this pump and have a question.
If the 100 and the 150 are the same price, what would be a factor in getting one over the other? I don't plan on doing a whole lot to the truck as far as power mods.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RAM2940
Im curious why you cant cut the metal fuel line on the frame and slide the fuel line over it and then connect to the pump.
Thats what I did with my big line kit on my old '02. Worked just fine for 566hp on a relocated Carter.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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i have a 2wd 01 and hooked the rp100 up without dropping my tank or jacking the truck up there was plenty of room and i'm not a little guy by any means. Chris, i have the quadzilla adrenaline and the rp100 is plenty for me. it holds good pressure even running it on the highest setting
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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I dropped my tank and installed the draw straw. Dropping the tank is really easy. 2 straps and a couple of pipe clamps.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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I put one on my 03 rp150 and did not put a draw straw in truck runs great
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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where is the best place to order these from? and what are you guys paying?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 04:27 AM
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I do not run a Raptor, but as a vendor I may be of some help. PM me if I don't give you enough info.

Basically, the Raptor 100 and 150s do not come with a draw tube. The AirDog 150 full systems do. The 100 does not.

Since the Raptor is a non bypass design, it can only consume as much fuel as can be pumped into or through the VP44. This means the flow rate on the suction side is much lower than on a bypass full system type setup.

The connections can be made with the tank in place and the bed undisturbed. It's a little tight, but can all be done from below.

The rest of the install consists of mounting the pump on some brackets, running power and making the connections with the provided fittings. I like to put the pump where I want it and cut my lines last. I hook up the fuel filter side complete and then the tank side. I only cut the lines at the pump as a last step and then hook them up. Easy.

While I do not think Charlie or Pureflow say that a draw tube is required for the Raptor, it has been my experience that a Draw Straw has benefited other pumps and installs. I recommend them on every Dodge install. Especially those from 2000-2002 and those with in tank pumps. Again, just my personal opinion based on my experiences.

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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my rp150 came with the draw straw. the tech guy at pureflow said they didnt know if it would suck the collection basket dry, so i guess they figured they would rather be safe than sorry. he did say because it is a return system that it would probably not hurt anything to use the factory pick-up tube, but you would need the the disconnect fitting.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Spoke to Pureflow today.

The draw tube is no longer shipped with the 2nd gen Raptors. They tell me their testing has revealed it is not required. The '05 and up and any model with an intank pump requires the use of a draw tube.

However, I still recommend the Draw Straw on those 2000-2002 model years based on my personal experience.

Dave
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