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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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pyro lead wire length & 30, 40, or 60 lb boost gauge

I'm getting ready to order an ISSPRO EV three gauge set from DieselManor. They offer their ISSPRO EV pyros with 6 foot lead wires. Is 6 feet long enough (properly & cleanly routed) to reach the top hole of a pillar mount? My truck is not a hot rod, only a daily driver work truck. The only engine perf mods will be the complete TST #6 plate kit. That being said, how much boost gauge do I really need? I think I'll need more than 30, but certainly not a 60. What good is a boost gauge that doesn't swing full scale. How much boost will I be seeing with the #6 and supplied wastegate elbow? The 40 should be plenty of gauge, shouldn't it? Too bad the 40 only says Manifold Press instead of Turbo Boost.

The pod will be purchased from DPP.

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Roy
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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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6ft seems like it would be cutting it pretty close, 8ft seems more like it.
I get along just fine with a 40 lb boost gauge, but I'm not a hot rodder either.
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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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I would just get the 60 since there is no price difference
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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I just ordered mine last night and was told the 6' is 'just enough' but you can get the 10' lead for only a few bucks more. If I was mounting in pillar I'd get the 10'. I also ordered the 40# because I've been told that I will see about 30-35# with the mods I'm planning to do. Great guys to deal with and if its not a stock item they don't charge you extra
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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get the 60... it's really easy to get 40+ out of these engines...
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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I just installed the exact same parts from the exact same source. 6' for me is way plenty long enough to go from the front side of the EX manifold to the firewall thru the grommet on the ds where the harness goes thru. I have about 3' wadded up inside. the thing they don't tell you is that the signal amp for the pyro has about 4' of lead to attach to the lead wire....you will be more ten fine with the 6'. as for boost, I went with a 40psi because it is too easy to get over 30psi, I pulled a buddys broke down ctd up a 9% grade last night and hit 33psi so I am glad I did get the 40. as for 60psi , the only way I am ever gonna run that kind of pressure is if I win the lottery and install twins, so for me if I start seeing 35+psi, I will just lift.

I was pleased when my fp gauge from diesel manor showed up the nex day after my order as they were out of stock and shipped to me from portland, I paid for ground ship and had my stuff in 4 days all the way acrossed the country!

hope this helps,

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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The engine may be able to get 40+ easily, but my stock turbo won't. Plus, I don't want to deal with head gaskets. This ain't no hot rod, just a daily driver work truck with occasional heavy acceleration...because I can't help myself.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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I had the stock turbo for quite a while... ran it at 35... all of a sudden when the HX40 went on, a 40psi gauge wasn't enough.

my truck is my only vehicle and I don't worry about the head gasket

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Once your boost goes over about 36 the egts start skyrocketing also.
Personally I feel gauges are there to warn you of a problem. A truck whose egts can go too high consistantly has a problem. It can be equated to a vehicle that overheats due to too small of a radiator, something needs to be fixed.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Just go with the 60# guage. I could peg the 30# one I USED to have, with just a #10 plate (in stock posistion). Hitting 40# with the current setup. Haven't even slid the plate.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by infidel
A truck whose egts can go too high consistantly has a problem.
I can bury my pyro, and I wouldn't say the truck has a "problem".

it could use another turbo, but it doesn't just magicly get hot without MY input...

a PERSON who allows their EGT's to cause a problem has a problem
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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I too can peg out the 30

which is the one that came with the banks setup on my truck... If i could afford another one id go with the 60 Lb.. being that there might be a B1 in my future or a PDR HX40.... maybe twins? dunno yet.. the more i read.. the more i want...

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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You don't want any guage sitting at the extreme, gives you no wiggle room.

Much easier to read when "good" is in the middle of the guage.

60psi for boost, since 20-30 is in the middle.

30psi for Fuel Pressure, since good is 15, dead center.

Can't remember if my EGT stops at 1400 or 1500, but cruising is 900, right in the middle.

Tranny temp usually sits at 1200 as well, around 190.



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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Get the 60lb. I could hit 40 with the GSK, and plate, and air filter with the stock turbo housing. 16cm lowered it to 35lbs, but why not have more guge than you need? Also; 6 feet was REALLY close. I would like to have another foot. I had to mount my pyro in the bottom for it to reach right.

Eric
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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My thinking was I would choose the gauge for the application, I mean by the time I spend the money for a big turbo or twins, head studs, bigger exhaust new bigger filters yada yada yada what is $35 for a new gauge, I have the weenie turbo which by the time it creeps up on 40 psi is in the danger zone so for me I have my gauges set up so the closer to buried it gets the more concerned I get. Just my take on it though,
GREG
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