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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Pyro gauge install - thread size for sensor?

OK, there are always at least two valid opinions on anything worth discussing, so I need to ask for advice.

I see that the EGT gauges are sold with EITHER 1/8 NPT or 1/4 NPT size sensors. Seems to me it's a lot easier to snap off a 1/8 tap than a 1/4, so my initial thought would be to go with a 1/4.

BUT, are there other good reasons to go with 1/8 into the manifold? Need to get the gauges ordered up in the next day so need to find this out ASAP.

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Just go with the 1/4NPT thread and drill the hole 7/16 to tap.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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A 1/8 th pipe tap is about 3/8" diameter at the point where you stop tapping plenty strong easier to pull (less force)
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Theres little chance of snapping off a tap - drill the hole the right size, use some tapping fluid or grease and youll be alright with 1/8" .

Make sure you dont tap it too far in. The bottom of the thermocouple fitting should be even with the indside of the exhaust manifold.

http://www.piersdiesel.com/TechPyroInstall.htm
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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OK.... next dumb question

So a pipe tap is a different sizing from the "regular" taps I have in the box for bolts?

Sorry, it's been a long week already and tomorrow is Veterinary day for us - taking stud colt in for his pre-inspection vetting and am a bit ragged. I appreciate all of you taking time to respond
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Yes they are different, the size of the pipe tap denotes the size of the pipe you will be threading for and pipe is designated by the inside diameter so 1/8" ID and about 1/8" walls = about 3/8" diameter OD pipe
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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I put in the 1/8 npt in the manifold. It was a piece of cake just drill the right size hole i believe it is 11/32 or 5/16 if you look on the tap it will tell you. Like it was said before a little oil or fluid will go a long way.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Think also of the size hole you are drilling. The larger hole is going to be more likely to cause a crack in the manifold than the smaller hole.

What I did was drill the appropriate hole for the 1/8NPT tap (IIRC, it's 5/16, but I dunno what it was), but didn't drill it all the way through. Then a started the engine and finished drilling the hole. The exhaust pressure blew all the shavings right back and nothing go into the manifold.

Then I slowly tapped the threads, using lots of thick grease and going just far enough to give the thermocouple a good anchor.

Tapping the threads too deeply is the most common mistake I see. I good reference is to just put a ring of tape on your tap to use for reference.

JMO
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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I also used a craftsman telescoping magnet to get down into the exhaust manifold after I drilled and tapped the hole to get all the little metal pieces out.

there were quite a few in there....I am glad I got them

WR
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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I would think the 1/8 NPT makes the most sense. As HOHN said, it has the least potential for damaging the manifold. And also, if so some reason you mess up the 1/8th, you can then upsize to 1/4 NPT
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