I just wanted to thank Doug at Advanced Diesel Technology for seting me up with their PE 4200 fuel system. I must say that it is one mean sounding pump. I now have 8 AN lines from the tank to the fuel filter and 6 AN lines from the filter to the VP44. Also NO MORE LIFT PUMP!!!NO MORE LIFT PUMP!!! I think it is a good investment not having to worry about low fuel pressures burning up the ole VP44. I would also like to wish everyone at Advanced Diesel Technology (http://www.smokindiesel.com) good luck when they go into business full time on January 1st.

 

SWEEEETTTTTT ;D

I've been contemplating this system after John P was nice enough to give me some info about it. Did yours come with a relay, wiring, pickup etc...?
How difficult is the install? Lastly, what kind of fuel pressure are you getting?

Thanks,

Scott

 

Sweet Setup isn't it? Congrats on the install ;D It's nice to be able to floor it and not have the FP even waver off 16 psi

 

Wanna see pics so I can go <br>Would like to see how you mounted it also.<br><br>Chris

 

I will try to get some pictures of the pump later today.

 

Here are a couple of pictures of my pump under my truck:<br><br><br><br><br><br>John

 

If you guys look close at &quot;banshee's&quot; pump, you will see<br>that it is mounted on a piece of &quot;L Bracket&quot; or &quot;angle iron&quot;<br>therefore eliminating the need to drill into the frame!! <br><br>In that position it is &quot;protected&quot; from rocks, road debris<br>etc. Great picture(s) John!!<br><br>-------<br>John_P

 

Not trying to be ignorant but is this 4200 system not an upgraded lift pump (transfer pump) unit. When I first read it my impression was problem eliminated not upgraded and I have never seen a injection pump run without one unless below level of the fuel tank. PK

 

OK, help out a rookie. Can you point me to the thread that has the details on this. The advantages etc. What is the price?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>MD

 

Maddog and P Kennedy:<br><br>The pump shown in the picture is manafactured by:<br>&quot;Product Engineering.&quot; Their website is: www.productengr.com. This &quot;pusher&quot; fuel pump<br>is designed to REPLACE the &quot;stock&quot; lift pump so<br>you will no longer have the fuel pressure problems<br>associated with stock lift pump, when you begin<br>adding fueling boxes, injectors etc. (raising H.P.)<br>The &quot;Product Engineering&quot; Pusher Fuel Pump is<br>&quot;rated&quot; @ 270 G.P.H.(Gallons Per Hour), has a seven<br>(7) vane impeller, &quot;hi-flo&quot; -8 fittings and a &quot;continous<br>duty&quot; two (2) year parts and labor warranty!<br><br>&quot;Battering Ram&quot; and &quot;banshee&quot; purchased their<br>PE pumps through Andy and Doug @ &quot;Advanced Diesel<br>Technology&quot; 1 South Shupe St., Mt. Pleasant, Pa.15666<br>Their phone number is: (724) 335-6167. Andy and Doug<br>have R&amp;D'ed a &quot;kit&quot; for the pump which includes:<br>Stainless Steel Braided Line with &quot;AeroQuip&quot; Fittings<br>to run from the fuel tank to the VP-44, a new fuel<br>tank &quot;pick-up&quot; (replaces the stock pick-up), electrical<br>relay, complete wiring and connectors etc. to hook-up<br>the PE pump! You can call them for prices.<br><br>Hope this has helped you guys out!<br><br>--------<br>John_P

 

Thats what I figured but the way the post came across it implied they had eliminated both the pump and the problem. Actually went onto their site to find that they offer 3 kits 4100,4200 and 4300 as they will supply 3 different levels of fuel delivery with the 4100 being close to stock requirements. This is good to know pending the price in place of the stock pump, like I stated never have seen a diesel run without a transfer pump. PK

 

Actually on boats engines often run on head pressure from the day tank, no transfer pump involved. Just an FYI.

 

So the benefits are less lag at the low end? What is the impact? I have some lag when I first hit the pedal but I thought it was mostly due to the lag in the turbo.<br><br>MD

 

P Kennedy:<br><br>Yes, the PE Pumps take the place of the stock lift<br>pump. I understand what you are saying about the<br>location etc., but the PE pumps flow enough fuel<br>and have enough positive pressure that the location<br>is not a problem.<br>_____________<br>Maddog:<br><br>You asked &quot;What is the impact?&quot;<br><br>Let me try to hit on all the benefits of this PE pump:<br><br>#1.) If you have a BOMBED 24 valve (98.5-2002)<br> (Fueling Box, Injectors, Biggger Turbo etc.)<br> the PE pump will STOP the fuel pressure<br> from being consistently &quot;pulled down&quot; all<br> the time. You probably read &quot;banshee's&quot;<br> post where he said he is unable to get his<br> F.P. below 16 psi now!! The stock lift pump<br> cannot take the constant pressure fluctuations<br> (being pulled down to &quot;0&quot without damage or<br> failure.<br><br>#2.) With a &quot;constant&quot; fuel pressure of 16 psi, the <br> low end improved on &quot;banshee's&quot; truck because<br> he is getting the proper amount of fuel to the VP-44.<br> The stock lift pump cannot keep up with the<br> fueling &quot;demand&quot; of the big boxes and injectors<br> and this hurts the overall performance of the truck.<br><br>#3.) Good fuel pressure to the VP-44 pump is only going<br> to prolong the life of that pump. The &quot;internals&quot;<br> of the VP-44 pump are also hurt by the lower<br> fuel pressures associated with the stock lift<br> pump. Remember, the VP-44 is &quot;cooled&quot; ONLY<br> by the fuel, NOT by fuel and oil as is the case<br> with the P7100 Fuel Pumps on the older 12 valve<br> Cummins Engines.<br><br>Hope this has helped explain some of this for you.<br><br>-------<br>John_P <br>

 

John_P,

Thanks for the info. This sounds great. So what is the net result on response to hitting the pedal? Does the truck leap when you step on it compared to the stock pump?