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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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need help deciding on exhaust brake.

just started looking at different brakes. not sure witch one is the best for my appication. truck is a 00 ctd 5 speed manual, 4'' mbrp exhaust, stock turbo. thanks in advanced for any help.
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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I had a BD before and was very happy with it.
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Well I suspect you'll get plenty of responses on this one! I have have two US Gear Super Duty D-Celerators and like both of them..
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 12:55 AM
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I have a Pacbrake and I like it. But then again, it does what I expected it to do. No matter what they all market, they all work the same way. The close off the exhaust and cause back pressure. The funny part is that even though they all claim to have more slowing power, they can only create so much back pressure before there is engine damage and I think that number is something like 190 HP. So for this reason they all have their different bells and whistles to make the other brand seem totally inferior. What you have to look for is one that will accept a 4" down pipe for your exhaust. Really the only kind of exhaust brake I would want is one that is turbo mounted. I understand that the turbo mounted types work better and faster than the exhaust pipe mounted type. But I'm sure there's plenty of guys who feel the opposite.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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thanks for the info. i was leaning towards the pac brake but just wanted to see what else might be good. will the brake for my truck work like the new trucks do. '' off the gas brake comes on on the gas brake goes off '' automaticlly?
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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we run all three of the above mentioned brakes. they all work good and hold back 60 lbs pressure i like the bd the best because of where the compressor is mounted the us gear is electrical solenoid operated where the pac and bd is air. i think pac makes a vacuum one if you want to use the truck vacuum
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by koontzy00
thanks for the info. i was leaning towards the pac brake but just wanted to see what else might be good. will the brake for my truck work like the new trucks do. '' off the gas brake comes on on the gas brake goes off '' automaticlly?
I believe that all 24 valve trucks have the ability for the exhaust brake to tap into the ECM's pin 20 which automatically turns the exhaust brake on 1-2 seconds after you let off the fuel pedal. My advice is to call all the exhaust brake companies and see what they have, how they function, and what features they offer.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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As for the D-Celerator, it's mounted downstream from the turbo, is independent of the vehicle computer systems, it has a micro switch mounted to the accelerator pedal to activate as soon as the pedal is in idle position, all it needs is 12V for it's control box and for the brake solenoid.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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I have decelerator /pac brake, bd /banks, all of them work good and are for the most part trouble free. I think pac brake has the best customer service and the pacbrake prxb is one of the best working ones.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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I have the Pac Brake. I installed it with the thorrotle switch, so that when i let the pedal go it activates the brake. you have the same turbo as me(hx35), i had to buy an adapter to make it mount up. I have had it for a couple of years now. The only trouble I've had with it was the cylinoid sticking a few times in extreme cold weather. It almost seemed as if it would need reset everytime it rained, but it hasnt done that for a while. So I'm not sure exactly. I just lubed the spots it says to with their lubricant and no problems now. You will not be dissapointed. I use my truck for construction, pulling trailers and hauling very frequently. If I decide to get another turbo, I will make sure i can keep my pac brake!
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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What I like about Pacbrake is they are constantly looking at ways to improve their products. Look for an engine brake (yes, engine brake, not exhaust brake) to hit the market for the 6.7L soon and the same engine brake will work on the 5.9L CR engine also. This brake will almost put you through the front window.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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thanks for info. that answered all my question. A@B guy i do the same stuff you do. my 26foot goose loaded with hay is going to stop alot nicer now.i would really like to see this engine break. i have run a few trucks with a factory exhaust brake and was impressed with them. cant imagin a engine brake! now the hunt for a good price on an exhaust brake.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nascar mark
What I like about Pacbrake is they are constantly looking at ways to improve their products. Look for an engine brake (yes, engine brake, not exhaust brake) to hit the market for the 6.7L soon and the same engine brake will work on the 5.9L CR engine also. This brake will almost put you through the front window.
I'm not going to disagree with you in regards that there "may" be an integrated ENGINE brake on some of the new medium to light duty diesel engines. But I disagree that anyone will make an engine brake for any current production engine. Engine brakes are not only far more aggressive on the internals than an exhaust brake but engine brake also require what is considered as another head on top of the existing head. There is hardly enough room for whats under my hood let alone a 6.7 hood for anything to mount on top of the engine. So for both reasons I just mention, if any diesel comes with an engine brake then the engine manufacture will have to design the engine around the Jake Brake and the truck body will also have to conform to the taller engine. Besides, we dont need that kinda braking power nor do these trucks gross enough weight to offset it either. Exhaust brakes work far good enough. Thats not saying I dont think engine brakes are far cooler than exhaust brakes.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Do a forum search, too. There are tons of these threads regarding exhaust brakes. I've answered this question too many times. There are a handful of significant differences among brakes. Full closure eccentric butterfly, partial closure with hole, inline, turbo mount, apps op, ecm op, vac op, pressure op. Do a search before buying. LOTS of info available.

Personally I like the SPEED of apps op, and low rpm performance of full closure.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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I have the usgear as well and har worked great for 7 years with no problems
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