Magnetic Oil Drain Plug for Cummins
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Magnetic Oil Drain Plug for Cummins
The Magnetic Drain plug is essential for the life extension of all engines. They are easy to find for your basic gas engines but impossible to find for the Cummins engine... Or at least in my never ending search, so I found a solution.
I duct taped a magnet to the oil filter. I can't think of any reason why the magnet should interfere with the normal function of the engine or the internal function of the filtering process unless the magnet were to fall off or be removed while the engine is in operation then releasing a large glob of metals into the filter and engine. These are metals that would normally pass through the filter so if released would end up back into the engine.
I used duct tape but I wonder if that will hold up to the heat. If not then next time I can use the very sticky aluminum duct tape, it won't melt or soften like regular duct tape. I really wish I had a magnetic drain plug but until I find one then it's the old magnet to the oil filter trick.
On an added note: Two very essential engine life extenders are magnetic drain plugs and synthetic oils. Synthetics are scientifically designed and superior to fossil oils they do not break down like fossil oil.
I duct taped a magnet to the oil filter. I can't think of any reason why the magnet should interfere with the normal function of the engine or the internal function of the filtering process unless the magnet were to fall off or be removed while the engine is in operation then releasing a large glob of metals into the filter and engine. These are metals that would normally pass through the filter so if released would end up back into the engine.
I used duct tape but I wonder if that will hold up to the heat. If not then next time I can use the very sticky aluminum duct tape, it won't melt or soften like regular duct tape. I really wish I had a magnetic drain plug but until I find one then it's the old magnet to the oil filter trick.
On an added note: Two very essential engine life extenders are magnetic drain plugs and synthetic oils. Synthetics are scientifically designed and superior to fossil oils they do not break down like fossil oil.
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I'm not even interested in the oil argument you're starting. However, Geno's Garage has the magnetic plug your looking for. Has a thicker flange that won't crack as easy also.
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I use one of these that cost about $15 on my filters.
The 20 or so magnets in it hold it to the filter so good there is no way it will fall off or even move a hair.
I've dissected a few of my filters and it's very obvious where the magnets where by the trapped particles.
Info> http://198.170.245.162/beartrap.html
You could probably make your own for cheap by gluing strong magnets into a "sandwich" inbetween two mouse pads.
The 20 or so magnets in it hold it to the filter so good there is no way it will fall off or even move a hair.
I've dissected a few of my filters and it's very obvious where the magnets where by the trapped particles.
Info> http://198.170.245.162/beartrap.html
You could probably make your own for cheap by gluing strong magnets into a "sandwich" inbetween two mouse pads.
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I do not see where Geno's Garage supplies a magnetic engine oil plug. They sell non magnetic oil plugs and magnetic transmission pans etc.
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I didn't realize that I was starting an argument in relation to synthetic oil. I assumed that if people weren't using synthetics that they were either ignorant or could care less about increasing the life of their engine.
Now that I search youtube on the topic I see that there is an ongoing debate. All I needed to see many years ago was the slippery synthetic oil being drained from a car then run for an hour with no oil in the crank case to become a believer, Or people who report getting better gas mileage, or the science that shows that regular oil on a molecular scale has a shorter life due to molecular break down when scientifically synthetics last 3 times as long.
So either I am too gullible and all the reports are lies or you haven't studied sufficiently. I would love to see a link to some information that shows synthetics are not superior and why they are not on a molecular level.
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I didn't realize that I was starting an argument in relation to synthetic oil. I assumed that if people weren't using synthetics that they were either ignorant or could care less about increasing the life of their engine.
Now that I search youtube on the topic I see that there is an ongoing debate. All I needed to see many years ago was the slippery synthetic oil being drained from a car then run for an hour with no oil in the crank case to become a believer, Or people who report getting better gas mileage, or the science that shows that regular oil on a molecular scale has a shorter life due to molecular break down when scientifically synthetics last 3 times as long.
So either I am too gullible and all the reports are lies or you haven't studied sufficiently. I would love to see a link to some information that shows synthetics are not superior and why they are not on a molecular level.
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They have a mag plug for 1995 Dodge Ram but only list the gasoline V-8's
That is the strangest thing that the cummins is excluded.
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Here is the link to the magnetic plug from Geno's
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....=HDOP-KIT-22MM
It's not listed as magnetic in the product name, but it does have a magnetic tip. I used this one until I switched to the finger touch drain plug.
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....=HDOP-KIT-22MM
It's not listed as magnetic in the product name, but it does have a magnetic tip. I used this one until I switched to the finger touch drain plug.
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Here is the link to the magnetic plug from Geno's
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....=HDOP-KIT-22MM
It's not listed as magnetic in the product name, but it does have a magnetic tip. I used this one until I switched to the finger touch drain plug.
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....=HDOP-KIT-22MM
It's not listed as magnetic in the product name, but it does have a magnetic tip. I used this one until I switched to the finger touch drain plug.
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Here is the link to the magnetic plug from Geno's
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....=HDOP-KIT-22MM
It's not listed as magnetic in the product name, but it does have a magnetic tip. I used this one until I switched to the finger touch drain plug.
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....=HDOP-KIT-22MM
It's not listed as magnetic in the product name, but it does have a magnetic tip. I used this one until I switched to the finger touch drain plug.
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I had a speaker, broke the magnet and stuck it to the bottom of my oil fiters (factory & bypass) and stuck the other larger chunk on the bottom of the tranny pan. It took all of 5min to install and none of them have budged for 20k miles.
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That's good to know but the tranny already has a magnet inside the pan. It looks like those flexible refrigerator magnets and the only way to remove the metal particles is to remove the pan and I think that is a really stupid design.
The transmission should have a filter like the engine does. There is a filter inside the tranny, or at least that's what it is called even though it is better described as a screen that probably won't even filter out fine sand particles. In my life I have never seen a tranny screen (filter) clogged with anything.
The tranny also needs a drain plug and magnetic at that. I haven't a clue why this design has carried on for approx 75 yrs, it's so stupid.
The transmission should have a filter like the engine does. There is a filter inside the tranny, or at least that's what it is called even though it is better described as a screen that probably won't even filter out fine sand particles. In my life I have never seen a tranny screen (filter) clogged with anything.
The tranny also needs a drain plug and magnetic at that. I haven't a clue why this design has carried on for approx 75 yrs, it's so stupid.
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Did you buy the truck off the new dealer's lot or used?
If you bought it used then it is much more likely that the previous or original owner put in an after market magnetic plug which meets OEM standards for the plug thread.
If you bought it new then perhaps the industry decided the engines were lasting waaayyyyy too long. Virtually everything has a designed failure rate. I once saw a 110 yr old battery that uses lemon juice instead of acid and it still worked. Today's car batteries are sold as 2yr 5yr etc as they are designed to only last so long then fail to feed industry sales, the same goes for many electronic items and I have seen them fail right after the warranty expires. That is by design and not just chance.
Another example are Automatic Transmissions. They fail a lot because they are over loaded with worthless sensors and electronic controllers. I believe that transmissions were perfected in the 1960s to 1970s They shifted smoothly and seemed to last far longer as they were all mechanical which is why I decided to buy a dodge cummins Diesel between the years of 92 to 95 for it's mechanical engine, I don't want the rest of the trash that's out there and I would like to find an old mechanical tranny that works well in my truck.
Another great example: Ford has a consistent failure rate of parts, always the same parts as they purposely have an inferior design of such parts, as to where their competitors do not have such problems with the very same parts. Ford could easily reverse engineer their competitor's better parts and with today's advancements could easily manufacture parts to last 500yrs, but what good is that to the industry? That would literally collapse Ford.
GM makes very reliable vehicles most of the time. Now look at GM. It's now owned by the Federal government which is scary in itself as prior to this move Corporate owner already control the government, they own and run the Presidential debates, corporate lobbyists make up the election committee and control and manipulate who gets elected even if the masses feel that they have control and that their votes actually count. I can show proof of this.
Anyhow, my point is that far more can be done to extend the engine life. All engines are also designed to not get anywhere near the mileage they are capable of so it is up to the consumer to do what he can to make the machines last longer.
A great example of industry control and it is industry and corporate owners that mostly run our government. It's an illusion that it's the other way around but it is now against the law in California to run your Diesel on used cooking oil. Why would that be? Used cooking oil burns clean and does not pollute the air like Diesel fuel. A person might think California would welcome that. The problem is that when you don't buy it at the pump then the oil companies don't profit, but it goes much deeper than that.
You pay taxes at the pump. The Federal and State government lose a lot of tax revenue if the trend moves toward the masses burning a throw away oil as fuel. It's ok if the oil companies themselves process it then you buy it at the pump, then you are paying the taxes, so this is why your freedoms are being trampled. The Government giant will not allow itself to go under until it's sucked the life out of you, then there are death taxes, you actually have to pay taxes for dying. Is this really the land of the free and the brave? Not really. Not when we allow the government to make any law it wants to and we all just swallow their horse Sh** and learn to smack our lips and say mmmm yummy.
Yes, I do get a bit radical and rebellious but it's the truth, many people just don't like to hear the truth as fairies and sugar plums dance in their heads... It's the truth.
If you bought it used then it is much more likely that the previous or original owner put in an after market magnetic plug which meets OEM standards for the plug thread.
If you bought it new then perhaps the industry decided the engines were lasting waaayyyyy too long. Virtually everything has a designed failure rate. I once saw a 110 yr old battery that uses lemon juice instead of acid and it still worked. Today's car batteries are sold as 2yr 5yr etc as they are designed to only last so long then fail to feed industry sales, the same goes for many electronic items and I have seen them fail right after the warranty expires. That is by design and not just chance.
Another example are Automatic Transmissions. They fail a lot because they are over loaded with worthless sensors and electronic controllers. I believe that transmissions were perfected in the 1960s to 1970s They shifted smoothly and seemed to last far longer as they were all mechanical which is why I decided to buy a dodge cummins Diesel between the years of 92 to 95 for it's mechanical engine, I don't want the rest of the trash that's out there and I would like to find an old mechanical tranny that works well in my truck.
Another great example: Ford has a consistent failure rate of parts, always the same parts as they purposely have an inferior design of such parts, as to where their competitors do not have such problems with the very same parts. Ford could easily reverse engineer their competitor's better parts and with today's advancements could easily manufacture parts to last 500yrs, but what good is that to the industry? That would literally collapse Ford.
GM makes very reliable vehicles most of the time. Now look at GM. It's now owned by the Federal government which is scary in itself as prior to this move Corporate owner already control the government, they own and run the Presidential debates, corporate lobbyists make up the election committee and control and manipulate who gets elected even if the masses feel that they have control and that their votes actually count. I can show proof of this.
Anyhow, my point is that far more can be done to extend the engine life. All engines are also designed to not get anywhere near the mileage they are capable of so it is up to the consumer to do what he can to make the machines last longer.
A great example of industry control and it is industry and corporate owners that mostly run our government. It's an illusion that it's the other way around but it is now against the law in California to run your Diesel on used cooking oil. Why would that be? Used cooking oil burns clean and does not pollute the air like Diesel fuel. A person might think California would welcome that. The problem is that when you don't buy it at the pump then the oil companies don't profit, but it goes much deeper than that.
You pay taxes at the pump. The Federal and State government lose a lot of tax revenue if the trend moves toward the masses burning a throw away oil as fuel. It's ok if the oil companies themselves process it then you buy it at the pump, then you are paying the taxes, so this is why your freedoms are being trampled. The Government giant will not allow itself to go under until it's sucked the life out of you, then there are death taxes, you actually have to pay taxes for dying. Is this really the land of the free and the brave? Not really. Not when we allow the government to make any law it wants to and we all just swallow their horse Sh** and learn to smack our lips and say mmmm yummy.
Yes, I do get a bit radical and rebellious but it's the truth, many people just don't like to hear the truth as fairies and sugar plums dance in their heads... It's the truth.