Are injector nozzles any better than new injectors? I wanted to run 100hp injectors but the price for new complete injectors is alot more more than just nozzles, all of these parts are from BD power.

this is on a 2001 ctd
thanks,
garrett

 

I'm curious myself

 

By the time you swap out the nozzles and have them
"pop" tested you are better off getting complete injectors.
Injectors are a precise "internal" fuel metering device that
that I wouldn't try to go cheap on

 

i disagree with the above post. Ive installed several sets including a set of jammer 4's on my truck and never pop tested any of them and i never had a problem. idle was smoother than stock and the truck performed much better. They are a cheaper alternative to the whole injector, and if they would have made 220hp nozzles, i would be running them instead of the mach 6's

 

The Jammer nozzles worked great on my truck, and for the price, how can you beat them? Only negative is a slightly rougher idle than stock.

 

I disagree with the disagree .
Its ok to make short cuts , but , it can help , and sometimes a lot , if you do not test and you have an issue then you start over ,
the point being is that besides cleaning , the springs lose tension , and they can be very different , or not , but if 1 or more do very , thats your chance to balance it , the more you pump it up , the more the imbalance is an issue .

 

I'm with John on this one, sure many guys have run nozzles and have been happy but do they really know what they missed out on as far as balance? If you can get them popped then go with them but if you aren't going to check them then you don't really know what you got

 

if you are in a shop that can pop test them then do, BUT if you live out (like I do) and it would be a 5 hour round trip or a day to ship them and two days to get them back. that's a lot of down time. I would reather put them in and if I had a problem, THEN take the 30 mins it takes to take them back out and then do all the running around. JMO

 

So you're saying it only takes 30 minutes to install a set of injectors??

 

I can pull a set of injectors OUT in 30 minutes (as stated)

 

But if you just spend a little extra $$ you can get a flow matched set of injectors. Same down time as nozzles if not less. I'm not saying nozzles don't have their place, just that with the injector you know they are all the same.

 

I've got a set of stage 5 jammer's and i love them.I didn't have mine pop tested either and they work fine.I think that if your not having injector problems then nozzles are fine to install and not test because they were working fine and swapping the nozzles will not change anything.If you were having problems then i would say go with the whole injectors.

 

get at least 100hp nozzles and you will be happy! i have the 100's and wish i would have got the 125's or 150's. i didnt pop test them, but my first set was pop tested and balanced.

 

No! I don't think anyone will argue with this answer.
Are Injector nozzles a bad idea and to be avoided at all costs?? Also No! They can work almost as well, but for a less predictably length of time. On a limited budget, they can be very tempting.

BUT - I hearing two different philosophys here. Try it...and fix it if there is a problem... vs. be more careful up front, to avoid possible problems. I definately fall into the latter camp....because problems may, or may not, be obvious! If on a limited budget and need to work with new nozzles on used parts, I would be sure they started out matched and working properly. A smooth idle does not necessarly mean the injectors are set up properly.
To me, Injectors are precision items, operating in a harsh environment, under serious pressures and high speed cycles. I would do all I could, to have the best I could afford.

Also be aware Jammer nozzles and injectors (I believe BD sells Jammers) tend to fall short of advertised HP levels by 20+%.... plan accordingly.

RJ

 

Anyone who is willing to change out injectors to get more power.should be willing to pay a little more for the injectors to be professionally built and tested.I run Don M injectors,and no way would i hand assemble,and install an injector in my engine without it being tested at least for pop off.One bad nozzle can ruin the engine,aerate a piston or wash down a cyl of its oil.All these things are far more expensive to repair,than the money you may save is worth.One last thing i have run all size injectors from Don M,and the size 1.5-7,and they all idle much smoother than stock. I have the mach 6+ in my truck,and everyone who rides in my truck or listens to it run remark how quiet and smooth it runs,and idles.A stock truck sounds thrashy by comparison.Theres lot more to an injector than just throwing it together and hoping for the best,only Don M touched my nozzles.