how much horsepower will a 12 valve handle on a daily bases
how much horsepower will a 12 valve handle on a daily bases
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08-18-2006, 02:05 AM
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thanks ive been wanting a dodge for a while now. i want to build it up and make some power but dont want to get one and build it up if it isnt going to hold up to 600hp or 700hp on a daily bases
08-18-2006, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by orangebeast
thanks ive been wanting a dodge for a while now. i want to build it up and make some power but dont want to get one and build it up if it isnt going to hold up to 600hp or 700hp on a daily bases
08-18-2006, 02:30 AM
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my dad has a 96 powerstroke with just under 600hp that we drive everyday and it gets 24 mpg drivin 70mph on the highway unless a cummins wont hold up to the hp i dont think it would be a problem. i would think you would have more problems with the rest of the drivetrain but i could be wrong.
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check sig and you can see my truck is well into the 500's havent dynoed it yet but it drives great everyday.
also im calling bs on that 600 hp 96 stroker getting 24mpg. whats done to it to make 600 hp?
also im calling bs on that 600 hp 96 stroker getting 24mpg. whats done to it to make 600 hp?
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08-18-2006, 06:50 AM
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Im not sure how "driveable" a 700 hp truck would be as a daily driver.
I would not want to try to handle a pickup truck (empty bed) on wet roads with 700 hp.
If horse power and diveability are the two things your after, Id probably keep it down between 300 ~ 400 hp.
Many may disagree with that.
No matter what you decide, it wont be the engine, it'll be the drivetrain that you will need to address first.
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I would not want to try to handle a pickup truck (empty bed) on wet roads with 700 hp.
If horse power and diveability are the two things your after, Id probably keep it down between 300 ~ 400 hp.
Many may disagree with that.
No matter what you decide, it wont be the engine, it'll be the drivetrain that you will need to address first.
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08-18-2006, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wana12v
also im calling bs on that 600 hp 96 stroker getting 24mpg. whats done to it to make 600 hp?
08-18-2006, 07:46 AM
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Yea, please tell how that is done, you might want to pat. that and sell to Ford motor company, make a lot of money. haha.... O, and by the was did i mention my cummins has 500hp and getting 30mpg. ha
08-18-2006, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by orangebeast
my dad has a 96 powerstroke with just under 600hp that we drive everyday and it gets 24 mpg drivin 70mph on the highway unless a cummins wont hold up to the hp i dont think it would be a problem. i would think you would have more problems with the rest of the drivetrain but i could be wrong.
Seriously though, you can make more power in a 12 valve, but for a daily driver, I think a 24v or a 3rd gen is your best bet. There are plenty of daily driven 600hp 3rd gens out there. Add nitrous and you're at 700 hp. Turn your boxes down and you've got a well mannered 450 hp daily driver. Heck my 24v does a good job as a daily driver (535hp). I've just got my boxes turned down. That is the advantages of the electronically controlled engines. If you want big power though, you can't beat the 12 valve.....at least until someone figures how to turn 12v rpm's.
08-18-2006, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wana12v
check sig and you can see my truck is well into the 500's havent dynoed it yet but it drives great everyday.
also im calling bs on that 600 hp 96 stroker getting 24mpg. whats done to it to make 600 hp?
also im calling bs on that 600 hp 96 stroker getting 24mpg. whats done to it to make 600 hp?
What he didn't say was that it WAS a stroker and now it has a CTD!!
08-18-2006, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by orangebeast
my dad has a 96 powerstroke with just under 600hp that we drive everyday and it gets 24 mpg drivin 70mph on the highway unless a cummins wont hold up to the hp i dont think it would be a problem. i would think you would have more problems with the rest of the drivetrain but i could be wrong.
yea and my dad has an 04 dodge cummins making nearly 1,000hp on propane and nitrous that will pull a 30k lbs trailer all day like its not there and still gets 30mpg doin it
08-18-2006, 10:21 AM
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My '98 12v makes 400 at the wheels without the nitrous. It's my daily driver. There are still some fairly easy things I could do to get more out of it without sacrificing driveability. One would be to put the right size turbo on it-the one I have now it too big. Another would be some bigger deliver valves-mine are stock. Yet another would be to put the 60# valvesprings in (that I already have in a box) and up the governor to 4000 rpm.
Doing all this would probably yield a MORE driveable truck, and I'm guessing conservatively would add probably 50 or 60 hp at the wheels.
Doing all this would probably yield a MORE driveable truck, and I'm guessing conservatively would add probably 50 or 60 hp at the wheels.