Fuel Pressure Gauge hook up?
I have searched here and seen that a lot of people run a rubber fuel line with a needle valve before going to stainless braided hose up to the cab to hook up to the fuel pressure gauge.
Does anyone have a "schematic" or drawing of from where the tap off of the fuel pressure is all the way up to the gauge with this method? I am looking for what parts I need to get (any ferrules, bushing, hoses, fittings etc. etc.) before I start this job. Should Napa and Grainger have just about anything I need? Also, what size stainless braided hose should I get?
Thanks,
~Rob
Does anyone have a "schematic" or drawing of from where the tap off of the fuel pressure is all the way up to the gauge with this method? I am looking for what parts I need to get (any ferrules, bushing, hoses, fittings etc. etc.) before I start this job. Should Napa and Grainger have just about anything I need? Also, what size stainless braided hose should I get?
Thanks,
~Rob
Rob,
check out Moose10's setup:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...cat/500/page/2
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...cat/500/page/2
You should be able to get the bits and pieces from either Graniger or NAPA....Will need the tapped banjo bolt for connection to the fuel filter (get that when you order the guages)..
check out Moose10's setup:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...cat/500/page/2
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...cat/500/page/2
You should be able to get the bits and pieces from either Graniger or NAPA....Will need the tapped banjo bolt for connection to the fuel filter (get that when you order the guages)..
Originally posted by hotdram
Another question: Can I use the needle valve to shut off fuel to the cab completely if I have to or should I have another isolation valve in the system?
Thanks,
~Rob
Another question: Can I use the needle valve to shut off fuel to the cab completely if I have to or should I have another isolation valve in the system?
Thanks,
~Rob
phox
Originally posted by phox_mulder
Yes, the needle valve will shut off flow.
phox
Yes, the needle valve will shut off flow.
phox
The fitting on the bottom is called a push lock fitting....Grainger should carry them as well (If you cant find it there, check out Swagelok)
That one is 1/8" NPT (male) to 1/4" hose (diesel rated of course).
That push lock fitting will not leak and once the hose is on there you dont need a clamp....very secure and cheaper than SS Braided line.
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Originally posted by Dr. Evil
That push lock fitting will not leak and once the hose is on there you dont need a clamp....very secure and cheaper than SS Braided line.
That push lock fitting will not leak and once the hose is on there you dont need a clamp....very secure and cheaper than SS Braided line.
Thanks,
~Rob
Originally posted by hotdram
Okay, now I am a little confused. At some point, won't I need SS braided to get into the cab? Or is that rubber fuel line (Moose10's pics) run all the way to the cab without transitioning to SS braided?
Thanks,
~Rob
Okay, now I am a little confused. At some point, won't I need SS braided to get into the cab? Or is that rubber fuel line (Moose10's pics) run all the way to the cab without transitioning to SS braided?
Thanks,
~Rob
People have a lot of different setups. Obviously, S.S. braided hose is the safest. But I see no problem with using fuel line and pushlock fittings. Some people even use 1/8" boost line.
The normal route that I take in all the F.P. gauges that I install is fuel/oil grade 1/8"(boost type line) from the needle valve under the hood to the gauge. Since most of the trucks that I do have automatics..the owners opt for a trans temp gauge to complete the 3 gauge pillar(pyro,boost,trans temp) so I install the F.P. gauge under the dash just above the left edge of the tunnel. It is still in site of the driver and also I can get at the line if needed. With the 1/8" lines that I have done...there has no runs,no drips , no errors...and NO LEAKS!
Rick
Rick
Originally posted by hotdram
Okay, now I am a little confused. At some point, won't I need SS braided to get into the cab? Or is that rubber fuel line (Moose10's pics) run all the way to the cab without transitioning to SS braided?
Thanks,
~Rob
Okay, now I am a little confused. At some point, won't I need SS braided to get into the cab? Or is that rubber fuel line (Moose10's pics) run all the way to the cab without transitioning to SS braided?
Thanks,
~Rob
Hi Rob,
You don't "need" SS braided hose.....I have yet to understand the stigma behind that
....I agree, yeah it looks cool ('til it gets dirty), and compared to some types of hose it is stronger and more abrasion resistant, but really to me it wasn't worth the price. At the gauge I used a female 1/8NPT to 1/4" hose push-lock fitting. Same as the one pictured, but with threads on the inside....to screw onto the gauge.
The hose I used is bulk 300psi rated 1/4" hydraulic line from NAPA......7' at less than $2/ft.
Hope that helps !
Originally posted by Moose10
Hi Rob,
You don't "need" SS braided hose.....I have yet to understand the stigma behind that
....I agree, yeah it looks cool ('til it gets dirty), and compared to some types of hose it is stronger and more abrasion resistant, but really to me it wasn't worth the price.
At the gauge I used a female 1/8NPT to 1/4" hose push-lock fitting. Same as the one pictured, but with threads on the inside....to screw onto the gauge.
The hose I used is bulk 300psi rated 1/4" hydraulic line from NAPA......7' at less than $2/ft.
Hope that helps !
Hi Rob,
You don't "need" SS braided hose.....I have yet to understand the stigma behind that
....I agree, yeah it looks cool ('til it gets dirty), and compared to some types of hose it is stronger and more abrasion resistant, but really to me it wasn't worth the price. At the gauge I used a female 1/8NPT to 1/4" hose push-lock fitting. Same as the one pictured, but with threads on the inside....to screw onto the gauge.
The hose I used is bulk 300psi rated 1/4" hydraulic line from NAPA......7' at less than $2/ft.
Hope that helps !
Sweet,
Thanks Moose. I was just looking at Graingers website and found the pushlocks. The hose was on the same page in reels of like 250'. I was trying to figure out what to do with about 240 extra feet
. Looks like its off to Napa I go. How hard was it to route the 1/4" hydraulic line into the cab and up to the gauge?Thanks,
~Rob
It was actually easier to route the hose as opposed to the boost gauge tubing (it wanted to keep curling up)
I routed everything through the big rubber grommet in the firewall by the clutch pedal, over the emergency brake pedal....just be sure to zip tie stuff away from the linkage, then feed it up past the fuse block and headlight switch to the pillar. It helped to have the headlight switch removed.
btw, I got all the hardware from NAPA too.
I'm glad you didn't have to buy 250' of hose !
I routed everything through the big rubber grommet in the firewall by the clutch pedal, over the emergency brake pedal....just be sure to zip tie stuff away from the linkage, then feed it up past the fuse block and headlight switch to the pillar. It helped to have the headlight switch removed.btw, I got all the hardware from NAPA too.
I'm glad you didn't have to buy 250' of hose !
Originally posted by hotdram
Looks like its off to Napa I go. How hard was it to route the 1/4" hydraulic line into the cab and up to the gauge?
Thanks,
~Rob
Looks like its off to Napa I go. How hard was it to route the 1/4" hydraulic line into the cab and up to the gauge?
Thanks,
~Rob
jlh
Okay,
So I went to Grainger and they only had the 1/8 NPT (M) to 1/4 id. pushlock. I got that there, but am still searching for the 1/8 NPT (F) to 1/4 id for hooking up to the gauge.
I put the pushlock intot the hose I got at Napa (1/4" Fuel Line, but marked "Not for Fuel Injection Systems" - SAE 30R7, Gates). When the yellow plastic cup is flush with the end of the hose, it fits loosely over it. In other words, I can spin the plastic cup around. Is this normal? Or do I need a little bigger OD hose? I can't measure the OD, as my calipers are at work.
Thanks,
~Rob
So I went to Grainger and they only had the 1/8 NPT (M) to 1/4 id. pushlock. I got that there, but am still searching for the 1/8 NPT (F) to 1/4 id for hooking up to the gauge.
I put the pushlock intot the hose I got at Napa (1/4" Fuel Line, but marked "Not for Fuel Injection Systems" - SAE 30R7, Gates). When the yellow plastic cup is flush with the end of the hose, it fits loosely over it. In other words, I can spin the plastic cup around. Is this normal? Or do I need a little bigger OD hose? I can't measure the OD, as my calipers are at work.
Thanks,
~Rob



