I am in need of a new Tailpipe and would like to upgrade to a 4" exhaust. With 173000 on it, I would think it needs a new Cat. Is there any aftermarket Cats. available and I am looking for a muffler which is less restrictive and not too loud since I leave for work at 5:00 AM . KDP just killed a couple weeks ago and was sticking out 1/4". I used the tab method. Job is relatively easy. Anyone contemplating doing the job should not delay as it can come out anytime. Mine tappped back in real easy. It was just a matter of time.

 

SCDAYTONA:<br><br>Welcome to the website!<br><br>I would defintitely get rid of the catalytic converter!<br>My truck began to lose power a few years back and<br>you would not believe how plugged the thing was!<br>If you decide to keep the cat, you can buy new<br>ones fairly inexpensive at any Midas or Meineke<br>Muffler shop. They also have them at Auto Zone<br>and Advanced Auto. The catalytic converters<br>from Dodge are very high $$$$$!<br><br>If you go to a full 4&quot; exhaust system, I would like<br>to recommend the Walker #21471 Muffler. I had one<br>on my truck for awhile and they sound real good <br>with the 12 valve engines. If you retain the &quot;stock&quot;<br>exhaust, the Walker #21468 also sounds good!<br>You can find these mufflers at any NAPA Auto<br>Parts or any auto parts/repair shop that deals<br>in the Walker Exhaust Line.<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>-------<br>John_P<br><br>

 

Just saw that JEGS carries 4&quot; systems for 100 les than I paid.<br><br>http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...mp;prmenbr=361<br><br>Like John says loose the cat, if you can get by without,sure am glad I did!

 

I am also looking at the Jegs sys. &amp; this one from summit http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=34429
one thing i'm trying to figure out is, do they come with a down pipe? or are they turbo back? does anyone have any of these systems?
I like the Rip sys. but I'm really looking for the cheapest price right now as my system is falling apart!

DRecu!

 

The Jegs catalog has a picture of the same system I purchased from a diesel hi-po place and it is complete from the turbo to the tip. It still doesn't hurt to ask the person you are buying from to look at what you are buying and give you a report. Both companies are pretty good about service, in my experience.<br> Tony

 

[quote author=tmiller24 link=board=16;threadid=11412;start=0#108543 date=1046118584]<br>The Jegs catalog has a picture of the same system I purchased from a diesel hi-po place and it is complete from the turbo to the tip. It still doesn't hurt to ask the person you are buying from to look at what you are buying and give you a report. Both companies are pretty good about service, in my experience.<br> Tony<br>[/quote]<br><br>So how was the fit &amp; finish? &amp; how do you like the sound? is it really quiet? I want louder but as long as it's not quieter than stock I can live with it.<br><br>DRecu!

 

I like the fit and the finish very well and I especcially liked the sound, until my partner thought I was the Trash Man coming down the road! I'm very happy,but I will say that I spent about 6 hours playing with the Sawsall and the tailpipe to get it the way I liked. Well worth the time to me. The sound is slightly louder than stock and much deeper. I have only heard one complaint and I had to consider the source.<br> Tony

 

[glow=red, 2, 300]STACKS [/glow]
They sound great and very quiet. :

DM01

 

I have to agree with tmiller24. I have the Summit system which appears to be EXACTLY the same as the Jeg's and the same price too. I love it, it fit really well, came with everything from the turbo-back, and it is not too loud. I recommend it 100%.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br>

 

[quote author=dodgeman01 link=board=16;threadid=11412;start=0#108599 date=1046122966]<br>[glow=red, 2, 300]STACKS [/glow]<br>They sound great and very quiet. :<br> <br>DM01<br>[/quote]<br><br>I new I'd find you in here! <br><br>Yeah[glow=blue, 6, 475]STACKS![/glow] sound great! ;D<br><br>Countdown to March 8th begins [glow=green, 8, 550]NOW![/glow]

 

I have the Jardine 4&quot; turbo back system from piers. Its not to bad. Went in fairly smooth though i had to cut 4&quot; of pipe off one of the sections to make it fit right. It really isnt that much louder on my truck either and it has no cat or resonator and the muffler is a 4&quot; straight through magnaflow. Without actually seeing any other brands in person yet I'd probably go with a jardine again if I needed another one.

 

[quote author=John_P link=board=7;threadid=11412;start=0#108528 date=1046117189]<br>SCDAYTONA:<br><br>Welcome to the website!<br><br>I would defintitely get rid of the catalytic converter!<br>My truck began to lose power a few years back and<br>you would not believe how plugged the thing was!<br>If you decide to keep the cat, you can buy new<br>ones fairly inexpensive at any Midas or Meineke<br>Muffler shop. They also have them at Auto Zone<br>and Advanced Auto. The catalytic converters<br>from Dodge are very high $$$$$!<br><br>If you go to a full 4&quot; exhaust system, I would like<br>to recommend the Walker #21471 Muffler. I had one<br>on my truck for awhile and they sound real good <br>with the 12 valve engines. If you retain the &quot;stock&quot;<br>exhaust, the Walker #21468 also sounds good!<br>You can find these mufflers at any NAPA Auto<br>Parts or any auto parts/repair shop that deals<br>in the Walker Exhaust Line.<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>-------<br>John_P<br><br><br>[/quote]<br>I am not aware of an after market manufacturer for a catalytic converter designed to be behind a Cummins.From what I can tell they are dealer only &amp; TERRIBLY expensive.

 

Rip:<br><br>Thanks for the input.<br><br>I was told by one of our local exhaust and muffler<br>shops that they could get a cat for my 96' at much<br>less than Dodge charges but maybe I misunderstood<br>him. I will check into it. <br><br>-------<br>John_P

 

John,<br><br> Have you thought about &quot;gutting&quot; the stock cat and then having the 3&quot; end cut off and a 4&quot; pipe welded on. It has to be less than buying a new cat, whether it is factory or aftermarket.<br><br>John<br><br>

 

John:<br><br>I &quot;misworded&quot; my last post. The stock exhaust system<br>on my 96' is LONG GONE and so is the cat!! ;D <br>I now have a complete &quot;straight through&quot; 4&quot; DD<br>exhaust system on my truck. I had the Walker<br>#21471 Muffler for awhile but am running without<br>it right now. Sorry about that......... <br><br>I was originally trying to let &quot;SCDAYTONA&quot; know that<br>a couple of the local exhaust shops had told me awhile<br>back that they could obtain cheaper &quot;aftermarket&quot;<br>catalytic converters for the stock system. &quot;Rip&quot;<br>had pointed out he was not aware of an aftermarket<br>system to go behind the Cummins engine. He may be<br>right, but I will check with my shop. <br><br>Thanks for the input though.<br><br>---------<br>John_P