Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only Talk about Dodge/Cummins aftermarket products for second generation trucks here. Can include high-performance mods, or general accessories.

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Dumbe question but here we go.

Okay i have looked at my mods and the ones i plan on doing once if ever i get twins and it dosent add up. I will hopefully be at 600hp but that isnt enough, what are these guys doing to get a 700-1500 hp 12v. Once the twins go on and i get my 370's and lser cut DV's im out on what else to do. I want to run meth but i want high hp wiout it first, on #2 only then the juice and meth can come.

are they running injectors bigger then 370, bigger DV's the laser cut, are or more pump work? I would like to do all the work on the truck but once i hit 600 i cant really do anything else? Is there anything to do besides plungers in the pump? i am running a 100 plate and i understand that 0 is more aggressive but is there any plate more aggressive then these? I know i can take the plate out but won the truck stand a chance of running away on me? its starting to look hopless to have a 800hp truck wiout somebody else working on it.

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Well most of the guys running High hp keep what they do secret. To make those number you will have to get into the engine. Custom cut pistons, ported head, maybe even cams. With the pump you will have to dump the stocker and go with a after market pump. I think Peirs makes a realy high flow one, I think it called a stupid pump(?). I know a shop that makes 435 injector but you will want custom honed ones that flow like a fire hose. If you go on BBD's site it shows all this in detail, and he makes less than 700 i do believe. I doubt this can be done with a few bolt on parts and some drugs. If it can be pulled of it def would be nice, but I doubt very direable on the street.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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There are several things that can be done, but I doubt you'll do it on the IP you have right now. You can see what I have in my sig to make the numbers. The only other things I have are some mods to help keep the engine alive at higher RPM's. With some good tuning and time it can be done. And can be streetable if you have a valet switch. And I believe BBD is up around 830HP or more.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Water meth,

propane, water injection alone, huge custom EDM injectors, are just some of the things high HP guys have, some run nitrous, some run a combination of all of the above, and u can most certainly bet that they also run HUGE twin sets and what not,

***** has a PDR stoopid pump, that thing alone for the 3500 dollars it costs will make INSANE power as you can see if timed and tuned correctly, You can also run a truck with no plate, i have ran mine without a plate before and it is insane, smoke, power and egts are thru teh roof in a heartbeat, its not even a race, teh EGTS race up quicker than your tach does if you have stock turbos.

If i had an unlimted account this is what i would run to definately get me up there

PDR stoopid pump
Marine over gasket, keepers retainers and springs on a PDR head
5K GSK
HUGE twins capable of over 100 PSI easily (dunno what tho)
insane timing, probably in the 30 degree or so range or higher,
Arias pistons
crank shaft
cam shaft
water methanol to cool the mixture just a bit
Custom EDM huge injectors
Nitrous oxide
Laser cut DV's
Probably a second pump to push more fuel to the IP
Custom Exhast probably or straight pipe
Fully built transmission shafts, clutch and all
heavier duty transfer case
Superduty driveshafts and Ujoints (if they exist)
propane

its all that i can think of off the top of my head, and yes i know, im insane, before i can keep dreaming i need a clutch...

Besides, taht will get you insane power but waht good would it do u if its not streetable?

Hey *****, whats ur truck dyno with the valet on? I see u gained 300 or so horses with the PDR twins and pump

rick
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Rick that's a pretty good list you have there, I'd say that's easily 700Hp Probably more like 850-900. In valet mode I'm right at 500HP/1000FtLbs. of torque. I'm thinking about bumping my timing to 25-28 here soon.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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[QUOTE=Willy91]valet mode I'm right at 500HP/1000FtLbs. of torque. QUOTE]


Ill be happy once my truck reaches that...

Then ill call it done...

Rick
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TxDiesel007
Then ill call it done...
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Well here is what i plan on doing besides what is in my sig.

Powerbypoole twins (seem to be the biggest set around)
cam
pistons w/injectors to match
machined pistons
timing where it suits me
Laser cut DV's
Rods
14mm studs
Rod bolts
new rod and mains
Fire rings w/ head work i.e(hone, maybe port and polish)
Thinner gasket if possible
Intake manifold
Exhaust manifold if turbos dont come with one
new gauges fuel, pyro, boost, inbetween boost, and diff
input shaft
DD clutch
larger fuel lines

Then once that gets done i will contact somebody to see how much it would cost to turn my pump into a stupid pump.

And once all that is done i plan on enough water meth nozzels to suit my needs and maybe some go juice.

The biggest problem besides time and money is where can i get a large set of twins, i would like to have them be usable with only 450hp but supportive of 800. Dont know if it is possible but who knows. I was considering triplets but i need about 3 inches in 2 places for them to work. I can dream cant i?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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I forgot the 13mm plungers in the pump.

I almost forgot, i have heard of cummins set up to run almost 5300 rpms. I was wondering how this is possible. I have 4k with the keepers and retainers and am set up to rev to 4k maybe a bit more but i dont have the ***** to. All i want is the 5k kit so i can rev fast, i am happy only revving to 3500, but the faster it does it the happier i am. I was also wondering what would happen if i tightened down my governor springs. i have heard it helps the truck rev more, is this true? Didnt men to get off track but this has been bothering me sinmce i saw a 12v set up to rev to 5300.

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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by inline6359
I forgot the 13mm plungers in the pump.

I almost forgot, i have heard of cummins set up to run almost 5300 rpms. I was wondering how this is possible. I have 4k with the keepers and retainers and am set up to rev to 4k maybe a bit more but i dont have the ***** to. All i want is the 5k kit so i can rev fast, i am happy only revving to 3500, but the faster it does it the happier i am. I was also wondering what would happen if i tightened down my governor springs. i have heard it helps the truck rev more, is this true? Didnt mean to get off track but this has been bothering me sinmce i saw a 12v set up to rev to 5300.

thanks Rick
There is a fine line tho

I have a 4K kit and if my springs are too tight, yes i can rev High, I dont have Keepers retainers and springs and what not yet, and unfortunately due to me needing a clutch they will be on the back burner for a while... till i can get in my clutch.

Back on topic, if the springs are too tight, then you will have floating RPMS, I tightened mine to about .60 and i had floating rpms, i loosened them up to about .55 and that ended, BUT my idle was too high having to readjust it. Now im done with my truck, the springs are right at about .52, with an idle of 750 with the AC on and about 800 or so without it on, and the truck starts at the bump of the starter every time... It also easily revs to 3800 if i dont watch it,

ON the dyno after my clutch went kaput i did see about 3800 on the tach... that was rather scary tho..... Wont do that again till i have clutch, keepers, retainers, springs, studs, and then once i have that ill dyno again with a blocked gate, then comes some serious air...

Till then unfortunately all i can do is dream....

Rick
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