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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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cam fuel and torque plate 10 8 6 0 100

They are all the same thing. I have a #8 plate.
What are the differences between the plates? I see many people with a #10. People go from 8's to 10's and stuff. In general, the lower the number the more power or fuel, right? Maybe the 100 plate is an exception. I could have gotten a #6, but it is not recommended for a stock tranny. I'm thinking that they produce different shift patterns. The plates are probably designed to let off the fuel a little when it comes time to shift. So, some plates just fuel more at different times? Let’s talk about this. What plate do you recommend and why?
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by drolex
They are all the same thing. I have a #8 plate.
What are the differences between the plates? I see many people with a #10. People go from 8's to 10's and stuff. In general, the lower the number the more power or fuel, right? Maybe the 100 plate is an exception. I could have gotten a #6, but it is not recommended for a stock tranny. I'm thinking that they produce different shift patterns. The plates are probably designed to let off the fuel a little when it comes time to shift. So, some plates just fuel more at different times? Let’s talk about this. What plate do you recommend and why?
Fuel plates, lets talk about them

More commonly reffered to as fuel plates, they come in different numbers to explain how "aggressive" (for lack of a better term at the moment) that they are 10, 8, 6, 5, 0, and 100, zero being a flatt plate that bombards the pump with fuel, and a 100 being a ten plate curve with no top end defueling, much like the zero.. The one you see there is my banks plate, screwy yes, i know, i dont get it myself. that plate goes in the P7100 injector pump, It goes under what is called the AFC housing, which has a little starwheel on it, the starwheel can be accessed with the removal of the hex dealy using the the right hex head size plug, and u loosen it for more smoke, and better lower end, and tighten it for the inverse. Use a good screwdriver.... furthermore... You will see four screws there where the starwheel is, two that are flatt, one that is possibly a breakoff screw that can be a real PITA to remove, take a hammer and good screwdriver and bang the tar outta it, it will come off, if that fails, left hand drill bit... Looking down the driver side, the top left hand is the breakaway, and the top right is a regular screw as well, the bottom two are 8mm bolts and you need to get around to one that is in the back of the AFC housing that holds that fuel shutdown solenoid in place...

There was an explanation of what they are and how to install them, now the next thing is which one do i reccomend? I and many others around here swear by the 100, its a J shaped plate that fuels hard on the top end and has moderate fueling early on.

The 10 plate is the best all around for power and towing, in the sense that you dont have to watch the pyro all the time, whereas with the 100 and the 0 you actually do have to watch the pyro and ur egts, moreso with larger than stock injectors and a heavy load in tow..

Hope this helps

Rick
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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what he said ^

way to go rick, i think you bout covered it all
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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So, a 10 is a lot different than an 8? Would you say that a 10 adds more fuel than an 8? According to this chart I saw before, a 10 was less intense than an 8. What about the 6? We haven't talked about all of them.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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So, a 10 is a lot different than an 8? Would you say that a 10 adds more fuel than an 8? According to this chart I saw before, a 10 was less intense than an 8. What about the 6? We haven't talked about all of them.
No need to

they are all marginal increases in power, if you want all out, go a zero, if you want moderate power and best all around performance, go with a 10, if you want something with almost all out performance with good low end fuel and no top end defueling go with a 100..

the only other cam plate i have experience with is a banks, and between the 100 and the banks, its no comparison..

Simply said, if you want the effect of the next most aggressive plate , run lets say the 10 in the stock position, and push it full forward with the AFC full forward as well, and it will act like an 8, same for the 8 and so on and so forth...

Cant get much more aggressive than a zero tho, least i dont think, unless u add delivery valves, and/or deep cut that plate, but i have not done that nor do i have experience with it..

Rick
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Well, I was looking for a technical discussion. I believe the fuel plates specifically control the amount of fuel per RPM with the various cuts. I believe the designs are, or were, developed with the tranny in mind. As you hammer the fuel more during an automatic shift, the life of the transmission decreases, correct? I was wondering if the 10 actually adds more fuel than an 8 in certain spots. I was wondering this, because I see so many people with a 10 and they have all sorts of other goodies for performance (making it appear as though 10 is a better choice for performance). I guess we should just compare the cuts.

I race people that I should beat, but I don't because the RPMs wind out to much before it shifts. I started this topic because I was thinking that if I had a different cut that allowed more fuel when it comes time to shift, I could get into the next gear quicker. I'm not going to get a different cut to actually try it. I'm just wondering. I wish I had a better transmission with more gears. Someday, I shall.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by drolex
...I race people that I should beat, but I don't because the RPMs wind out to much before it shifts. ....
You need a 3K GSK really bad. Install one and it will pull until it shifts.

I went from an 8 to a 10 plate. The 8 had more low end. The power comes on at about 1800 RPM with the 10. This is a good thing for your tranny as it allows it to build up a bit more pressure to hold better.

10 and 100 plates are also infinately adjustable with sliding and governor arm position. Want more low end, lift the gov arm up. Saving a stock tranny, lower the gov arm.

BTW, PDR traded my 8 for the 10 for $50(?) if I remember correctly . Not sure if they still do it......
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