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#10 Fuel plate. Grind my own or Buy it???

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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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#10 Fuel plate. Grind my own or Buy it???

Can a #10 plate be home made from a Stock plate? Is there a special way to do it? Any help is appreciated
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Yes you can grind your own. Just use a grinder/Dremel and take it slow, don't get it real hot. I would draw the profile with a Sharpie so you had a pattern to follow.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by displacedtexan
Yes you can grind your own. Just use a grinder/Dremel and take it slow, don't get it real hot. I would draw the profile with a Sharpie so you had a pattern to follow.
i second that motion...

Better to save up that money for another more expensive modification..

Rick
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Ditto what they said!!! I used a bench grinder to get the general shape of the plate and then used sandpaper (100, 150, and then 220 grit) to get it exact and polished it with a buffing wheel and polishing compound in my drill . Looks awesome with the face like a mirror and rides super smooth against the govenor arm
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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I've asked before, but how does everyone know exactly how to grind the peak at the end of the plate?
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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I've asked before, but how does everyone know exactly how to grind the peak at the end of the plate?
Shawn, grinding the plate isn't rocket science. My bet is every 100 plate's tip is different from the next one. Also where the gov arm is adjusted makes the curve of the tip a mute point.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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I'm sure it isn't, I do however like to be 100% positive before doing something anytime the outcome can produce mass failure. Thanks for the heads up though, that takes the worry out of it

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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FWIW, you could grind the plate to any profile you want, it won't hurt anything. It may give you a really weird power curve, but won't cause any "mass failure"
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Does anyone have a diagram of the different fuel plate curves? I'd like to grind the plate as soon as I get the gauges but I don't really know what shape to make the curve...
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...8&d=1167867303
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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That link should give you something to go by
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Just pull your plate completely. A #10 plate doesnt even make contact with your throttle arm anyway. IMO a fuel plate is a waste of money, when you can just pull it out and make more horse power and adjust the afc as needed.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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You adjust the arm to hit the plate. And how is it a waste of money? Most of us have ground our own...
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by displacedtexan
You adjust the arm to hit the plate. And how is it a waste of money? Most of us have ground our own...
With this bein said

a plate is not a waste of money, i consider it cheap insurance to prevent damage to the internals of the injection pump.

KuhKuhKyle, if u insist a plate is a waste of money so be it, but with the proof already in stories and damages that have been documented with people running without a plate, its not even worth the risk, and even so, if u want to run plateless, at least adjust the governer arm so that it does not travel under the plate. I have a 100 plate, and u can adjust the plate positioning or the governer arm to hit the plate as needed. Ive done both to my truck.

Plateless, if it was such a good thing, why isnt everyone doing it?

Rick
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Well Rick. In all applications I have been around, I've seen plateless trucks completely undamaged. All the #10 plates that have been made, dont touch the arm anyway. I myself have bench tested this plate and a plateless p pump. Both provide the exact same fuel flow of at least 400 cc's of fuel per thousand strokes of the pump, to the 110 cc's per 1000 strokes of the pump. All a fuel stop plate is, is another restriction. If building a ton of horsepower is your goal, why restrict your fuel flow? This is just my opinion. I've never seen any damages to a plateless pump personally. I know of a few pumps where guys have ground their plates, and put it back in to have the bolt get loose and back out to cause damages. Only cases I know of.
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