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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Wow, any other cities doing this (DWI arrest related)?

Cops trained to draw blood at scene of DWI arrests:

City's Police Trained To Draw Blood After DWI Arrests

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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hotdram
Cops trained to draw blood at scene of DWI arrests:

City's Police Trained To Draw Blood After DWI Arrests

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Drinking and driving is a serious issue. Not sure if this a good idea though.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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In the DC Maryland suburbs, the Prince Georges County Police have been doing it for years.
Only instead of using a syringe, the prefer to use the Glock.

BANG BANG.....STOP, BANG BANG, DON'T MOVE, BANG BANG, this is the PG County Police,......BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG, click.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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In WV we use the cup method for getting a sample of blood. 1. Give the drunk a paper cup. 2. Tell him to hold it under his chin. 3. Smack him in the nose. 4. Wait until the cup is 1/3 full then retrieve cup.

Simple and effective, not much training needed.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hayseed
In WV we use the cup method for getting a sample of blood. 1. Give the drunk a paper cup. 2. Tell him to hold it under his chin. 3. Smack him in the nose. 4. Wait until the cup is 1/3 full then retrieve cup.

Simple and effective, not much training needed.

Hayseed, you in Law Enforcement? I take it they don't have the dash mount cameras in WV yet?

Used to work with a guy who they called Hayseed, shoewee!
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Good. I'm glad.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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it would be a cold day in you know where when some police offices says he is going to take my blood.
i find it strange that so many will freely give up there rights. i belive franklin said it best. anyone who will give up freedom for security deserves neither.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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That has been pretty standard here for a couple years. Before that the officers would have to transport the drunk to the hospital, have the blood drawn, etc. I think the biggest thing that caused it to change were that the nurses got tired of testifying in court.

gunracer1 - Around here, the officers normally obtain a search warrant to collect the blood sample, and it's not uncommon to have to strap someone down to take blood. Bottom line: don't drink and drive and you won't have to worry about it.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Got a little bad or good news for you all, depending on which side of the issue you are on.

This stated about 2 or 3 years ago in either Arizona or Colorado and has gone all the way to the Supreme Court. The police can legally draw blood by obtaining and Evidenciary (meaning very specific) Search Warrant if they suspect a person is DWI after giving them the field sobriety tests. The officer must go before a judge and testify that he believes the person to be DWI because he failed the field sobriety tests, speech is slurred, cannot repeat the alphabet, etc. It ususally does not take long to obtain this warrant and any judge in the district can issue it (municipal, state, etc.).

The City of Dalworthington Gardens (near Arlington, TX and Ft. Worth) is the first city in this area to implement this process and it was featured on the news last night. I did not see the news feature, but heard about it.

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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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This could actually work in favor of the person accused in my state. Here they have to use the lowest of any number of readings when they try you in court.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hayseed
In WV we use the cup method for getting a sample of blood. 1. Give the drunk a paper cup. 2. Tell him to hold it under his chin. 3. Smack him in the nose. 4. Wait until the cup is 1/3 full then retrieve cup.

Simple and effective, not much training needed.
I'm still laughing at that one.

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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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it would be a cold day in you know where when some police offices says he is going to take my blood.
i find it strange that so many will freely give up there rights. i belive franklin said it best. anyone who will give up freedom for security deserves neither.
You gave implied consent when you signed your driver's license.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Cops trained to draw blood at scene of DWI arrests:

City's Police Trained To Draw Blood After DWI Arrests

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I know at least one town hear is doing it. One of my employee's got to have fun with this. He got ran into by a stupid lady (I say that loosely) and the cop started giving him a hard time. The cop hacked his arm up with a neddle and cited him for DUI. After spending $2000 dollars the blood test came back at 0.02. The cop asked for the case to be dismissed without prejudice so he could have a drug tesk done as well. This guy was out of control.

As for aggreeing when you sign for your license; when I signed for mine you were required to submit to Blood/breath/or urine at your discresion. If he tried sticking me and did not know what he was doing he would have had some issues.

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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Brooks
That has been pretty standard here for a couple years. Before that the officers would have to transport the drunk to the hospital, have the blood drawn, etc. I think the biggest thing that caused it to change were that the nurses got tired of testifying in court.

gunracer1 - Around here, the officers normally obtain a search warrant to collect the blood sample, and it's not uncommon to have to strap someone down to take blood. Bottom line: don't drink and drive and you won't have to worry about it.

Plus the BAC comes down by the time they get to the hospital.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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Plus the BAC comes down by the time they get to the hospital.
Yep, but testimony regarding retrograde BAC has become pretty common during trials, and is usually effective at showing BAC at the time of the driving as long as the jurors have more than room temperature IQs...which may not be as common.

Originally Posted by CSAGrey1
This could actually work in favor of the person accused in my state. Here they have to use the lowest of any number of readings when they try you in court.
Blood is more accurate than breath, but regardless, a breath test is normally not administered (around here, anyway) if blood will be drawn. With very few exceptions, blood is taken for all felony DUI offenses because it's a much more reliable test.
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