why do Jap trucks always look overloaded and underrated?
08-04-2007, 12:09 PM
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why do Jap trucks always look overloaded and underrated?
i rode almost across country last month on the bike, and it was amazing that every import pickup i saw looked like it was struggling.
the Honda Ridgeline is the funniest thing going,
I saw one of those pulling a car trailer, and it was squatting bad....
the trailer had a couch and a love seat on it....???
and i saw a Tacoma with a load in the bed, and it was squatting pretty good
??
would you hire a contractor that arrived in a honda ridgeline?
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ight=ridgeline
i think is one of the FUNNIEST threads i have seen
Saw a Ridgeline pretending to be a truck...
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ight=ridgeline
I say that to myself every time i see a ridgeline.
the Honda Ridgeline is the funniest thing going,
I saw one of those pulling a car trailer, and it was squatting bad....
the trailer had a couch and a love seat on it....???
and i saw a Tacoma with a load in the bed, and it was squatting pretty good
??
would you hire a contractor that arrived in a honda ridgeline?
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ight=ridgeline
i think is one of the FUNNIEST threads i have seen
Saw a Ridgeline pretending to be a truck...
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ight=ridgeline
I say that to myself every time i see a ridgeline.
08-04-2007, 12:53 PM
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I wanted to reply to this.. but theres so many funnys to be said and i got work to do today.. wouldnt nearly have enough time to write about the japs trucks!
Or should we say, minivans with roofs cut off for the ridgerunt.
Or should we say, minivans with roofs cut off for the ridgerunt.
08-04-2007, 12:56 PM
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04ctd,
Why are you even comparing them to a Cummins? Is there some way they might equally compare?
They are built different for different uses, not to haul like a CTD. Not everyone needs the capability or wants the weight of the Dodge. Cool.
I'm glad not all trucks are built the same and Toyotas are very well made.
Oh, by the way, WWll is over and we won.
John
Why are you even comparing them to a Cummins? Is there some way they might equally compare?
They are built different for different uses, not to haul like a CTD. Not everyone needs the capability or wants the weight of the Dodge. Cool.
I'm glad not all trucks are built the same and Toyotas are very well made.
Oh, by the way, WWll is over and we won.
John
We won the war ? 
08-04-2007, 01:19 PM
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Ive considered getting a Tacoma lately since I don't tow/haul hardly at all like I used to.
However, they are very nice and the build quality is excellent IMO, they are alot more like a car. Even though they are a great vehicle for the majority, they just never will match the capability of what I already have.
Now, to compare a little truck to a 3/4 I believe isn't that far off.
First, MPG, I get about 15/21 but I do drive like a grandma. The Tacoma 17/22.
The cost, Dodge w- markdowns $34k. The Tacoma (they don't come off sticker much since they are pretty popular) $31k.
Now, the load and towing are obviously not going to compare. So I won't go there.
For a few grand more Id almost rather just spend the money to have the more all around capable vehicle. I have the old 1994 Grand Cherokee if I want to drive something smaller around town. That would be the only benefit I guess, size wise they are a good little 4x4 to travel, drive around town, etc.
Well, thats my .02. Not bad vehicles, just depends on all that you need or want.
Have a good one.
PS. I like the 2004 and older Tacoma's. Much more of a "truck" in my opinion. Nicer too. Oh, Honda doesn't make a truck, its a car thingy that thinks its a truck.
However, they are very nice and the build quality is excellent IMO, they are alot more like a car. Even though they are a great vehicle for the majority, they just never will match the capability of what I already have.
Now, to compare a little truck to a 3/4 I believe isn't that far off.
First, MPG, I get about 15/21 but I do drive like a grandma. The Tacoma 17/22.
The cost, Dodge w- markdowns $34k. The Tacoma (they don't come off sticker much since they are pretty popular) $31k.
Now, the load and towing are obviously not going to compare. So I won't go there.
For a few grand more Id almost rather just spend the money to have the more all around capable vehicle. I have the old 1994 Grand Cherokee if I want to drive something smaller around town. That would be the only benefit I guess, size wise they are a good little 4x4 to travel, drive around town, etc.
Well, thats my .02. Not bad vehicles, just depends on all that you need or want.
Have a good one.
PS. I like the 2004 and older Tacoma's. Much more of a "truck" in my opinion. Nicer too. Oh, Honda doesn't make a truck, its a car thingy that thinks its a truck.
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08-04-2007, 03:26 PM
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Ok, no names mentioned, to protect the less than intelligent among us.
Some lower canadian types are engaged in a mining operation out in the hills several hours from here. The gentleman who leads this merry band of very capable, hardworking people, doesn't understand certain mechanical concepts.
Hence, he left town the other day, in his honda ridgeline " truck " with a miller bobcat 250 welder, with full cables, a mid sized bottle of oxygen, and one of acetylene, and enough 4" heavy wall squared tubing to finish one of his de-rocker projects.
To his ( or honda's ) credit, he made it within 20 miles of his site, over some of the roughest 'roads' you could imagine travelling on, with street tires, and that load in the back. Now, when he left here, his wheels on the back were sitting much like /----------\ that. I got the call to go fix his truck, but better bring a trailer in case.
Well, the rear suspension, and all that goes with it, was completely torn off of the vehicle. End of list. I looked at what was left of the "frame" and said Nah, load it. So we slung it up with the 988 and set it on my trailer. A second, more professional opinion here in town said " nah, forget it"
Said gentleman now understands, and even though its a ford, is driving a 350 dual wheel crewcab 4x4. It hauls the welder just fine.
Long, but made me crack up
Some lower canadian types are engaged in a mining operation out in the hills several hours from here. The gentleman who leads this merry band of very capable, hardworking people, doesn't understand certain mechanical concepts.
Hence, he left town the other day, in his honda ridgeline " truck " with a miller bobcat 250 welder, with full cables, a mid sized bottle of oxygen, and one of acetylene, and enough 4" heavy wall squared tubing to finish one of his de-rocker projects.
To his ( or honda's ) credit, he made it within 20 miles of his site, over some of the roughest 'roads' you could imagine travelling on, with street tires, and that load in the back. Now, when he left here, his wheels on the back were sitting much like /----------\ that. I got the call to go fix his truck, but better bring a trailer in case.
Well, the rear suspension, and all that goes with it, was completely torn off of the vehicle. End of list. I looked at what was left of the "frame" and said Nah, load it. So we slung it up with the 988 and set it on my trailer. A second, more professional opinion here in town said " nah, forget it"
Said gentleman now understands, and even though its a ford, is driving a 350 dual wheel crewcab 4x4. It hauls the welder just fine.
Long, but made me crack up
08-04-2007, 03:53 PM
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Well cant really make much comments about "jap" trucks considering some "jap" trucks are made in the US where as our trucks are not.
All these threads comparing things only trucks that should be compared here should be CTD, Powerstroke, and Duramax since those are the only ones in a comparable range comparing our CTD to a Ridgeline is like comparing chevette to a corvette (but there both cars??)
All these threads comparing things only trucks that should be compared here should be CTD, Powerstroke, and Duramax since those are the only ones in a comparable range comparing our CTD to a Ridgeline is like comparing chevette to a corvette (but there both cars??)
08-04-2007, 04:23 PM
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I use to have a 96 tacoma with 6 inches of lift and 33's awsome truck would own one again. I bought the my dodge cuz i needed a bigger truck and the price was right.
08-04-2007, 05:01 PM
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I'd say Jap trucks always look overloaded and underrated BECAUSE THEY ARE!! IMO they are highly OVERrated - but only by their owners...just the same way all us Cummins owners are except for one fact...the Cummins trucks CAN and DO perform as we owners know, not some fantasy performances concocted by the Jap-crap truck owners!! Now before all you Jap truck lovers get to foaming at the mouth and angrily bang out flames here, I'm referring strictly to all the claims of abundant power/speed/towing/etc that Jap truck owners always seem to brag about; not the real reason these 'trucks' are popular; for daily commuting, soccer Mom's and maybe showing off at the beach or something equally less demanding. The Jap trucks rule the car-qualified arena and they should leave the real TRUCK stuff to the REAL trucks!! IMO, as always. ;-)
Oh, I'm not so sure WWII IS over quite yet(the Japs are still bombing us with their crap), and as in any war...NO ONE ever really 'wins'...but that's for another thread...
Oh, I'm not so sure WWII IS over quite yet(the Japs are still bombing us with their crap), and as in any war...NO ONE ever really 'wins'...but that's for another thread...
08-04-2007, 07:57 PM
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I'd say Jap trucks always look overloaded and underrated BECAUSE THEY ARE!! IMO they are highly OVERrated - but only by their owners...just the same way all us Cummins owners are except for one fact...the Cummins trucks CAN and DO perform as we owners know, not some fantasy performances concocted by the Jap-crap truck owners!! Now before all you Jap truck lovers get to foaming at the mouth and angrily bang out flames here, I'm referring strictly to all the claims of abundant power/speed/towing/etc that Jap truck owners always seem to brag about; not the real reason these 'trucks' are popular; for daily commuting, soccer Mom's and maybe showing off at the beach or something equally less demanding. The Jap trucks rule the car-qualified arena and they should leave the real TRUCK stuff to the REAL trucks!! IMO, as always. ;-)
The problem is not the vehicles, but the owners that buy a vehicle that does not meet their need adequately. You could make the same comment about me if I tried to tow a D-6... They are great vehicles when used as they are designed to be used.
08-04-2007, 08:04 PM
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At least NOW we can say that the profits made by Chrysler will be remaining in America instead of going to Japan or some other country. BUY AMERICAN !!
Its proably to late but these young people don't seem to understand that concept , i doubt you will find many veterans buying Jap trucks
Its proably to late but these young people don't seem to understand that concept , i doubt you will find many veterans buying Jap trucks
08-04-2007, 10:13 PM
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04ctd,
Why are you even comparing them to a Cummins? Is there some way they might equally compare?
They are built different for different uses, not to haul like a CTD. Not everyone needs the capability or wants the weight of the Dodge. Cool.
I'm glad not all trucks are built the same and Toyotas are very well made.
Oh, by the way, WWll is over and we won.
John
Why are you even comparing them to a Cummins? Is there some way they might equally compare?
They are built different for different uses, not to haul like a CTD. Not everyone needs the capability or wants the weight of the Dodge. Cool.
I'm glad not all trucks are built the same and Toyotas are very well made.
Oh, by the way, WWll is over and we won.
John
no, i am NOT talking about a HUGE load, i am talking about something that don't look like much.
like the empty car trailer on the one truck. with just the trailer tongue weight, and the couches on there, it was hurting.
the local contractors here LOAD up all their 1500 series trucks, and they look like they are about ready to give out.
08-04-2007, 10:57 PM
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The biggest problem is the honda is "designed" to be used as a truck.
Its shaped, somewhat like a truck. Has a bed like a truck. Heck, its even sold like a truck, and has awd too boot.
Read the reviews.
You take it off road? Boom there goes the struts.
You toss merely hundreds of pounds in the bed.. Poof. There goes the suspension in the rear.
And this is all well within their "designed to be used" ratio.
Point fact proven the ridgeline when used as an AWD truck, fails. When the truck is carrying the payload they say its "designed and rated for", fails.
Then they need to put the roof back on, slap the odyssey badge back on it and resell it because it does not deserve "AWD" or "truck".