Very controversial article...
Very controversial article...
I think it's good reading and a good example for linguistic excellence.
You may or may not agree with the content...
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/ar...ls.php?id=7036
AlpineRAM
You may or may not agree with the content...
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/ar...ls.php?id=7036
AlpineRAM
Well, for folks who want to have some good laughs 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/poll/polls/...074054-5106269
AlpineRAM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/poll/polls/...074054-5106269
AlpineRAM
What is gerlin oil, he never explains it. I've never heard of Gerin oil before, and there is nothing on my usual.. research sites..
Unless he mispelled it, Geraniol is rose oil, also in citronella limes, perfumes..
Unless he mispelled it, Geraniol is rose oil, also in citronella limes, perfumes..
Originally Posted by 6cylinders
Gerin Oil or Gerinoil= Religion
Yes, the article, essay, was an intresting read, but the total lack of any evidence to substanciate any of the facts was a tell tale that it was just an essay. Altough cleary religion [the solved anagram] can be everything the story describes it to be. The writer Dr. Hawkins subsequently addmited to the fact that no such substance exists but rather it is a play on the word.
Originally Posted by AlpineRAM
Well, for folks who want to have some good laughs 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/poll/polls/...074054-5106269
AlpineRAM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/poll/polls/...074054-5106269
AlpineRAM
Originally Posted by MCMLV
Give that man a cigar!
Yes, the article, essay, was an intresting read, but the total lack of any evidence to substanciate any of the facts was a tell tale that it was just an essay. Altough cleary religion [the solved anagram] can be everything the story describes it to be. The writer Dr. Hawkins subsequently addmited to the fact that no such substance exists but rather it is a play on the word.
Yes, the article, essay, was an intresting read, but the total lack of any evidence to substanciate any of the facts was a tell tale that it was just an essay. Altough cleary religion [the solved anagram] can be everything the story describes it to be. The writer Dr. Hawkins subsequently addmited to the fact that no such substance exists but rather it is a play on the word.
An interesting read, for sure. But it poses one perplexing question to me: how can such an educated individual be so ignorant?
The problem is the lumps together all religion, without bothering to consider the merits of any of them.
NEWSFLASH: they can't all be correct.
Note, this doesn't mean they are all wrong, either. It just means that if they don't agree, on something, they can't both be correct.
Something else to ponder: Nothing in the Bible has be proven false. In each major archaeological discovery only furnishes further proof of its veracity.
Now, just because the Bible is perfect and true, doesn't protect it from being used and misused as the foundation of all kinds of incorrect conclusions, often with the main intent being to maniulate people.
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Originally Posted by HOHN
An interesting read, for sure. But it poses one perplexing question to me: how can such an educated individual be so ignorant?
Originally Posted by HOHN
Something else to ponder: Nothing in the Bible has be proven false. In each major archaeological discovery only furnishes further proof of its veracity.
For example when an acused person is found 'not guilty' it does not mean that the person is inocent, but rather that not suficient proof was presented to convict.
Take for instance our faith: First nothing, then over many many years came the Old Testament, then for many more nothing again. Then came Christ and the New Testament, and in essence it stops again. If you take the Muslim view point (which I do not) the continuation was their profet Mohamed. They do not contradict our bible at all. Of course argument can be made for either side, but above all, I think what is most important is that it is a FAITH and one believes as one chooses. "...blessed are those who have not seen, yet believed..."
Originally Posted by MCMLV
I do not think he is, maybe you just read too much into it. His main point being that if one is "intoxicated" "adicted" to religion [read that as beong fanatical] then it can lead to bad things. Throughout history there have been "bad" things done in the name of just about all major religions. I do not think he is in any way addressing the fundamentals of any particular faith, as such he is not validating or contradicting any of them.
Not being proven false does not necesarily substanciate "veracity"
For example when an acused person is found 'not guilty' it does not mean that the person is inocent, but rather that not suficient proof was presented to convict.
Take for instance our faith: First nothing, then over many many years came the Old Testament, then for many more nothing again. Then came Christ and the New Testament, and in essence it stops again. If you take the Muslim view point (which I do not) the continuation was their profet Mohamed. They do not contradict our bible at all. Of course argument can be made for either side, but above all, I think what is most important is that it is a FAITH and one believes as one chooses. "...blessed are those who have not seen, yet believed..."
Not being proven false does not necesarily substanciate "veracity"
For example when an acused person is found 'not guilty' it does not mean that the person is inocent, but rather that not suficient proof was presented to convict.
Take for instance our faith: First nothing, then over many many years came the Old Testament, then for many more nothing again. Then came Christ and the New Testament, and in essence it stops again. If you take the Muslim view point (which I do not) the continuation was their profet Mohamed. They do not contradict our bible at all. Of course argument can be made for either side, but above all, I think what is most important is that it is a FAITH and one believes as one chooses. "...blessed are those who have not seen, yet believed..."
Originally Posted by Beamwalker
these muslims totally contradict the bible.
As to imagining the Apostoles straping bombs to themselves, no I can't, altough one did cut of the ear of one of the high priest's servants. Does make you think doesn't it? But we are getting off topic here...
Originally Posted by MCMLV
Actualy they do not "contradict" the bible, thier actions go against even their own religion. But then again I did not imply anything to that efect. The only point made was that unfortunately many atrocities have been commited in the past and present in the name of religion, by fanatics. Saddly that that is true for not only the Muslims.
As to imagining the Apostoles straping bombs to themselves, no I can't, altough one did cut of the ear of one of the high priest's servants. Does make you think doesn't it? But we are getting off topic here...
As to imagining the Apostoles straping bombs to themselves, no I can't, altough one did cut of the ear of one of the high priest's servants. Does make you think doesn't it? But we are getting off topic here...
Well, I think the article in question did not mention a single religion by name. It just stated the results of overdoses and the potential to get addicted.
I know you won't want to hear it, but there is something to the words "opium for the masses".
I regard the text I read as a very good bit of mastering the english language.
I do hope that this thread will not become a battlefield where fragments of religious texts are used as discussional shrapnels to puncture the opponents beliefs.
Isn't it astounding how bitter the reactions are? Everybody feels attacked in his beliefs but I'd suggest to just re-read the text.
AlpineRAM
PS: There's also some reason behind my second post on this thread...
I know you won't want to hear it, but there is something to the words "opium for the masses".
I regard the text I read as a very good bit of mastering the english language.
I do hope that this thread will not become a battlefield where fragments of religious texts are used as discussional shrapnels to puncture the opponents beliefs.
Isn't it astounding how bitter the reactions are? Everybody feels attacked in his beliefs but I'd suggest to just re-read the text.
AlpineRAM
PS: There's also some reason behind my second post on this thread...
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