Unfortunately, pretty close to the truth
Unfortunately, pretty close to the truth
Unfortunately, pretty close to the truth
Subject: Teaching Math
Teaching Math 1959 - 2009 (in the USA )
Last week I purchased a burger at Burger King for $1.58. The
counter girl took my $2 and I was digging for my change when I pulled
8 cents from my pocket and gave it to her. She stood there, holding
the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on her
register. I sensed her discomfort and tried to tell her to just give
me two quarters , but she hailed the manager for help. While he tried
to explain the transaction to her, she stood there and cried. Why do
I tell you this? Because of the evolution in teaching math since
the 1950s:
1. Teaching Math In 1950s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?
2. Teaching Math In 1960s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?
3. Teaching Math In 1970s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is $80. Did he make a profit?
4. Teaching Math In 1980s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline
the number 20.
5. Teaching Math In 1990s
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
Inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the
preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit
of $20.. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for
class participation after answering the question: How did the birds
and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no
wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it's ok.
6. Teaching Math In 2009
Un hachero vende una carretada de maderapara $100. El costo de la
producciones es $80. Cuanto dinero ha hecho?
Year 2010:
Who cares, just steal the lumber from your rich neighbor's
property, he won't have a gun to stop you, and the President says
it's OK anyway Cuz it's redistributing the wealth, to heck with the
math.
Edited by Admin- NO PERSONAL INSULTS ALLOWED
Subject: Teaching Math
Teaching Math 1959 - 2009 (in the USA )
Last week I purchased a burger at Burger King for $1.58. The
counter girl took my $2 and I was digging for my change when I pulled
8 cents from my pocket and gave it to her. She stood there, holding
the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on her
register. I sensed her discomfort and tried to tell her to just give
me two quarters , but she hailed the manager for help. While he tried
to explain the transaction to her, she stood there and cried. Why do
I tell you this? Because of the evolution in teaching math since
the 1950s:
1. Teaching Math In 1950s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?
2. Teaching Math In 1960s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?
3. Teaching Math In 1970s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is $80. Did he make a profit?
4. Teaching Math In 1980s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline
the number 20.
5. Teaching Math In 1990s
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
Inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the
preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit
of $20.. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for
class participation after answering the question: How did the birds
and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no
wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it's ok.
6. Teaching Math In 2009
Un hachero vende una carretada de maderapara $100. El costo de la
producciones es $80. Cuanto dinero ha hecho?
Year 2010:
Who cares, just steal the lumber from your rich neighbor's
property, he won't have a gun to stop you, and the President says
it's OK anyway Cuz it's redistributing the wealth, to heck with the
math.
Edited by Admin- NO PERSONAL INSULTS ALLOWED
DTR's 'Wrench thrower...' And he aims for the gusto...
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Posts: 2,668
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Look at the bright side. Being successful is so easy with these folks as competition. I don't know wether to shake my head or smile when I see examples of this.
got to admit, I am more angered by the direction this country is educationally this year...
did watch a power failure about three years ago, where burgerking actually, had long lines because only one counter person could make correct change. yup, the 40 year old.
one proud 20 year old was on his cell phone calculator. (sad, that he was proud of himself...)
did watch a power failure about three years ago, where burgerking actually, had long lines because only one counter person could make correct change. yup, the 40 year old.
one proud 20 year old was on his cell phone calculator. (sad, that he was proud of himself...)
How true Calamity 
I took the Family out to the rib shack last week for dinner, check came to $49.95.... I gave the girl at the register a $50.00 and she had to go get the Manager to give me my nickle back
I have NO doubt that she voted for Obama

I took the Family out to the rib shack last week for dinner, check came to $49.95.... I gave the girl at the register a $50.00 and she had to go get the Manager to give me my nickle back
I have NO doubt that she voted for Obama

That is frugal.
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Remember when people would say, "He only has an eighth grade education"?
This is what it took to graduate 8th grade in Salina, Ks. in 1985
Based on this test, I would have made it through the third grade…
MAYBE!
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, Kansas – 1895
Grammar
(Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,''play,' and 'run.'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
Arithmetic
(Time, 1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 feet deep, 10 feet long, and 3 feet wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cents/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. of coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards which measure 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per meter?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History
(Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865
Orthography
(Time, one hour)
[Do we even know what this is?]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals.
4. Give four substitutes for caret ‘u’. (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final ‘e’. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis-mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography
(Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall, and Orinoco
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the United States. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
7. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
8. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
9. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.
Notice that this exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.
Gives the saying “He only had an 8th grade education” a whole new meaning, doesn’t it? This also is a perfect demonstration pointing out how poor our education system has become.
This is what it took to graduate 8th grade in Salina, Ks. in 1985
Based on this test, I would have made it through the third grade…
MAYBE!
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, Kansas – 1895
Grammar
(Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,''play,' and 'run.'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
Arithmetic
(Time, 1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 feet deep, 10 feet long, and 3 feet wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cents/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. of coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards which measure 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per meter?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History
(Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865
Orthography
(Time, one hour)
[Do we even know what this is?]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals.
4. Give four substitutes for caret ‘u’. (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final ‘e’. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis-mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography
(Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall, and Orinoco
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the United States. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
7. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
8. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
9. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.
Notice that this exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.
Gives the saying “He only had an 8th grade education” a whole new meaning, doesn’t it? This also is a perfect demonstration pointing out how poor our education system has become.
Yeah, against my wishes, had to pull my kid from public school last yr in kindergarden. By the end of 1st semester, the class hadn't all learned the ABC's yet and they weren't doing any math....concentrating on counting past 10! My kid had been banned from answering questions in class since Oct, "so the other kids can have a chance."
And he was in the most English speaking of the 3 K classes! (It was not 2010 yet!
)
Where do these illegals, and I don't use that in a derogatory sense, because it's a fact, most are up here, like 80%Hispanic in Eagle county schools, 40+% ESL, get away with letting the public edumucate their kids without even helping them get a start? And I'm 800 mi from Mehico for crying out loud.
My parents had high school educations and they tought me everything they knew as fast as I'd absorb it until I reached their limits of education.
Now in 1st grade in a charter school, where the foreigners have European accents rather than orale vato, he's reading at a 3rd grade level and doing some serious math.
And he was in the most English speaking of the 3 K classes! (It was not 2010 yet!
)Where do these illegals, and I don't use that in a derogatory sense, because it's a fact, most are up here, like 80%Hispanic in Eagle county schools, 40+% ESL, get away with letting the public edumucate their kids without even helping them get a start? And I'm 800 mi from Mehico for crying out loud.
My parents had high school educations and they tought me everything they knew as fast as I'd absorb it until I reached their limits of education.
Now in 1st grade in a charter school, where the foreigners have European accents rather than orale vato, he's reading at a 3rd grade level and doing some serious math.
The world caters to idiots! The kids were having trouble making the grades so what do we do, lower the grading scale. This is just one of the many signs of times. Like I said before, its no longer common, its just sense now.
DTR's 'Wrench thrower...' And he aims for the gusto...
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Posts: 2,668
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Dmax,
It sounds like you already have skills that some others don't have. That is one of the tools of success. Another is valuing your own time. If you let others downplay your importance or you allow yourself to settle for less than you should, you are giving away your success. It boils down to knowledge, determination, respect. Step over the lazy or the bad attitude or the poorly managed company and just move on to your own future.
As far as I can see it's getting easier and easier to be a success in this country. So many are still expecting mommy to take care of them and have no clue about the real world. So many have no clue about determination.
Look at China for comparison. Kids are taught from the beginning that they must work hard and do well in school. Every generation and all parents know and teach this. If they don't pass their high school final exam, with a high enough score, they don't go to college. Period. If they don't go to college they live a life as a worker bee and poor. Meanwhile they have far fewer school supplies and equipment. Far worse facilities than we do.
In America, kids don't even learn basic math and English, in many cases, until they go to college and take remedial courses. There are very few consequences for a bad attitude and irresponsible behavior. On top of that everyone is looking for someone else to blame. People actually sit around blaming the president for their own child's lack of English and math skills! It's always someone else's fault around here.
That's why success is easier. In many cases, people (your competition) don't apply themselves, they blame others and they are not fucused.
It sounds like you already have skills that some others don't have. That is one of the tools of success. Another is valuing your own time. If you let others downplay your importance or you allow yourself to settle for less than you should, you are giving away your success. It boils down to knowledge, determination, respect. Step over the lazy or the bad attitude or the poorly managed company and just move on to your own future.
As far as I can see it's getting easier and easier to be a success in this country. So many are still expecting mommy to take care of them and have no clue about the real world. So many have no clue about determination.
Look at China for comparison. Kids are taught from the beginning that they must work hard and do well in school. Every generation and all parents know and teach this. If they don't pass their high school final exam, with a high enough score, they don't go to college. Period. If they don't go to college they live a life as a worker bee and poor. Meanwhile they have far fewer school supplies and equipment. Far worse facilities than we do.
In America, kids don't even learn basic math and English, in many cases, until they go to college and take remedial courses. There are very few consequences for a bad attitude and irresponsible behavior. On top of that everyone is looking for someone else to blame. People actually sit around blaming the president for their own child's lack of English and math skills! It's always someone else's fault around here.
That's why success is easier. In many cases, people (your competition) don't apply themselves, they blame others and they are not fucused.
My 2nd grader is doing fine in public schools. It only requires parents that are attentive, know how to read and pass the info on.
Besides, we NEED someone to work the cash register (barely) for little to no $$. Anyone that refuses to learn can sign up for McDonalds. Wal Mart is also hiring.
Besides, we NEED someone to work the cash register (barely) for little to no $$. Anyone that refuses to learn can sign up for McDonalds. Wal Mart is also hiring.
I don't care how well you know reading, writing, and 'rithmetic, or the "3 R's"...
...Unless you are going to be a successful rapper, tattoo artist, or NBA player, getting tats all over your face and neck, talking like you've got a mouth full of marbles, and having your pants sagging down to your knee's...
I'm not going to hire you, period!
My job is safe.


