04ctd

i think it was Feb 2008 issue. was at the tire shop & read it.

they did not test a CTD, but they had a D'max SRW & DRW,
and a Ford F-250 & F-450. (can't remember what RW)

and they all pulled 7500lbs, and the Tundra was faster 0-60mph and 1/4 mile

i think the F-450 pulled 10k,

but still, a little bitty Toyota out yanking a F-250?

someone look at that, and see what i missed.

the rear axle on the Tundra is pretty small, i wish they had used an infrared to measure heat on the rear axle cover after the 1/4 mile.

they said the Tundra was best of all the trucks.

sdaly

What they probably failed to mention is that the Tundra's rear axle exploded at the end of the 1/4 mile!

I didn't know 0-60 was important in towing. Tundra's are nice city trucks for the kids to drive, but I wouldn't rely on one to do real work like towing 10K.

Motor Trend = "Easy Reader" version of automotive magazines. Not a good source for anything really (except maybe lots of poseur pics ).

getrdun

Like to know what kind of mileage the Tundra gets pulling 10k.

BgBlkTrk

I can tell you what mileage my Tundra got towing around 7500-about 5 mpg at about 45mph on the highway from NM to California and back. Of course my truck was a 2000 with the 4.7L V8, but it is the main reason why I have the truck in my signature now.

RJ285

Who's paying who here?

klx650a2

At my previous job I rented a Nissan Titan. Very nice truck, but I've never burnt more fuel in my life. Sure fun to bag, er I mean drive in a respectable manner.... when someone else is buying the fuel...

Rednecktastic

Lets see how they do at 70mph up a mountain pass or through the hill country.... I'll take the diesel over the tundra screaming at 4000 rpms turning that 4.30 gear they come with with the factory tow package.

04ctd

i think 0-60 with 7500lbs on the back is important, if you have ever tried to merge. some on ramps around here are TINY due to the ever increasing widening of the road.

yes, i think there is more to this story than was in print.

someone on a Tundra forum needs to post a link of the magazine article to their forum, and see what they say.

i think the real trucks were working at 80% doing that test,
and the tundra was at 99%.

is 4:30 really the axle ratio? that WILL generate some heat.
4:30 is a KILLER ratio to hum along empty, would kill MPG empty, right?

G1625S

My dad has an '07 Tundra with the 5.7. Not sure on the axle ratio, I'll have to check. I've had the chance to tow around 9k with it---truck in my sig plus trailer weight. In tow haul mode, the 'yota 6-speed works extremely well. I would say a 12v CTD with reasonable mods would be over 1200 degrees to hang with the Tundra pulling the same hill I did. Oh, and it's not screaming at 4000 RPM's Try 6000+ It sounds like the in car cameras in NASCAR! I pulled about 6k on a 400 mile round trip, same truck and trailer, just smaller load. Averaged about 14mpg with the cruise set at 70. My truck would have netted 18, but the ride wouldn't have been so nice The Tundra is a pretty nice truck, and I believe it's got every one of the 381 advertised HP. Will it get the job done? Yup. Is it still (IMO) a hot rod grocery getter? You bet. That 6-speed tranny was all over the place, down to 3rd at 70mph a few times, when I would have just lugged the hills in 5th at 2000 with my CTD.

skidooman

I would buy a new Tundra over a flowerpokin superpoopy anyday. The 7.3 was the ONLY flowerpoke that was ever worth a crap. The 6.0 is trash and the 6.4 is a joke. Of course I would buy another Cummins if it was an option, but between a Tundra and Superpoopy. Tundra...

Rednecktastic

Yeah I'd prefer the yota over the PSD, heck I could have probably lived with one over my current truck but they weren't dealing on them. I'm not going to pay a couple+ grand more for a yota optioned like mine minus the solid axle and diesel, 2 major selling points with the dodge.

Rednecktastic

Yeah but how much faster do you need? How will the yota do in the hills?


And yes, I think all of the tow package equiped ones come with a 4.30 gear. Every one I drove from the TRD to the SR5 with the 5.7 had a 4.30 gear... Even without the tow package.


They have an excellent transmission and gearing to match. They don't just grab an old torqueflight 727 and put an overdrive gear in it hoping all will go well . They put some thought into it.
Advertised 17 and 18mpg w/ 2wd I believe.... Or maybe that's 19 and 20mpg w/2wd? Can't remember.

Besides some quirks they had when introduced they are a good truck.

04ctd

so basically, it gets the job done, it's just redlining the motor to do it.

steelblitzkrieg

4.7l is 3.90 for non tow and 4.10 for tow
5.7l is 4.10 for non tow and 4.30 for tow

Mileage rating is 13C/16H for the 4.7l
Mileage rating is 13C/17H for the 5.7l

5.7l is 381hp @ 5600rpm and 401ft-lbs @ 3600rpm

Here is the breakdown of gears to tow at max torque

3600RPM, 4.30 rear, Trans gear *below*, 32.07" tire diameter.

1st gear = 3.333 (23.9mph)
2nd gear = 1.960 (40.7mph)
3rd gear = 1.353 (59.0mph)
4th gear = 1.000 (79.8mph)
5th gear = .728 (109.7mph)
6th gear = .558 (143.1mph)

dj_souvlaki

which will last the longest.

that is the question

well between the ford and the toyota, my money would be on toyota.

however a ctd will destroy it in longevity.